> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:28:35 +0100
> From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen unfix.org>
> Sender: owner-nanogmerit.edu
>
> Kevin Oberman wrote:
> [..]
> > Note that sixxs only deals with commercial
providers. Many (most?) of
> > the major research and education networks around
the globe have done
> > IPv6 in production for years. That includes ESnet,
DREN, NREN and
> > Internet2 in the US, CAnet in Canada, Geant/Dante
in Europe and a number
> > of national networks in Asia.
>
> Which is a well know fact and who have quite a limited
set of end-sites
> who can actually connect to them, that is why these are
not listed.
> Similarly it doesn't list hosting providers either,
enabling a colo to
> do IPv6 should be childs play, getting it to the
enduser though... ;)
I was not complaining. I just wanted to be sure that people
were aware
that thee are a LOT of users (including large numbers of
researchers,
educators, and especially students connected to IPv6 capable
nets.
> > That said, while we provide IPv6 services
>
> You provide services and access, but which places are
actually enabled
> to use it? That the network is there is one thing, this
is the easy
> part, linking up the end-sites is the hard one.
Actually, for ESnet, due to an government mandate, most end
sites carry
or very soon will carry IPv6.
This still does not mean the end users are likely to use
it or that
there will be much traffic. The end sites tend to NOT
talk to each
other. the only exception is a couple of research
facilities that use
IPv6, but that still amounts to an immeasurably small amount
of traffic
over 10G links.
Perhaps the single biggest issue with making web service
IPv6 enabled is
that doing so almost invariably leads to a drop in total
access due to
brokenness in the IPv6 Internet as well as applications that
don't do
the right thing way too often.
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley
Lab)
E-mail: obermanes.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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