NXDOMAIN data needed for survey

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Ray Demain wrote:
> We are looking to purchase NXDOMAIN data for an
internet survey.
>
> We prefer to receive the data on an hourly basis so it
is as fresh as
> possible. Our system receives the data from you via ftp
that you provide.
> Its hard to value the data until we have taken a look
at it. As one example,
> we pay a current partner $4000 per month for 100,000
records per day. If you
> would like to setup a test so we can determine the
value of your data please
> contact me at




What company would this be for?

-M<

raydemaingmail.com ("Ray Demain") writes:

> We are looking to purchase NXDOMAIN data for an
internet survey.

your survey sounds more like an ongoing typosquatting
business venture.

> We prefer to receive the data on an hourly basis so it
is as fresh as
> possible.  Our system receives the data from you via
ftp that you
> provide.  Its hard to value the data until we have
taken a look at it.
> As one example, we pay a current partner $4000 per
month for 100,000
> records per day.  If you would like to setup a test so
we can determine
> the value of your data please contact me at
raydemaingmail.com.
> 
> Please note that if you can also bring in other
partners we will pay a
> 10% recurring finders fee.

thanks for clarifying my purpose in never collecting
NXDOMAIN data in ISC
SIE (see <http://sie.isc.org/>).
 several folks told me i was out to lunch,
but now i've got <http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg06810.html
>
to point at.
-- 
Paul Vixie

> > We are looking to purchase NXDOMAIN data for an
internet survey.
> 
> your survey sounds more like an ongoing typosquatting 
> business venture.

Doing a Google search with the keywords
pay nxdomain data
turns up some interesting information.

--Michael Dillon

On Mar 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Ray Demain wrote:
>> We are looking to purchase NXDOMAIN data for an
internet survey.
>>
>> We prefer to receive the data on an hourly basis so
it is as fresh as
>> possible. Our system receives the data from you via
ftp that you  
>> provide.
>> Its hard to value the data until we have taken a
look at it. As one  
>> example,
>> we pay a current partner $4000 per month for
100,000 records per  
>> day. If you
>> would like to setup a test so we can determine the
value of your  
>> data please
>> contact me at
>
>
>
>
> What company would this be for?

A domain squatting company, presumably. The same pseudonym
has been
trolling web hosting forums to buy the same data today.

He's Marlon Phillips, marlonmapcom.net, I'm pretty
sure, though which
particular squatter company he represents, I've no idea.

Cheers,
   Steve

 
What's even more interesting is that googling Ray Demain
shows nothing,
except this message.

I'd say that M. Demain does not exist, and his money will be
as real as
his on-line presence.

I always love commissions promised from entities whose
revenues you
can't audit.

Never mind that the purpose of this is, most likely, to
register domains
as link-farms.

I think it's best that we let David Ulevitch and the crew

OpenDNS make
the money that is to be made off this. He's doing good while
doing well.

BTW: If someone legitimate needs NXDOMAIN data, I do have a
bunch. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanogmerit.edu [mailto:owner-nanogmerit.edu] On 
> Behalf Of michael.dillonbt.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:25 AM
> To: nanogmerit.edu
> Subject: RE: NXDOMAIN data needed for survey
> 
> 
> > > We are looking to purchase NXDOMAIN data for
an internet survey.
> > 
> > your survey sounds more like an ongoing
typosquatting business 
> > venture.
> 
> Doing a Google search with the keywords
> pay nxdomain data
> turns up some interesting information.
> 
> --Michael Dillon
> 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Steve Atkins <steveblighty.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>  On Mar 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>  >
>  > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Ray Demain
wrote:
>  >> We are looking to purchase NXDOMAIN data for
an internet survey.
>  >>
>  >> We prefer to receive the data on an hourly
basis so it is as fresh as
>  >> possible. Our system receives the data from
you via ftp that you
>  >> provide.
>  >> Its hard to value the data until we have
taken a look at it. As one
>  >> example,
>  >> we pay a current partner $4000 per month for
100,000 records per
>  >> day. If you
>  >> would like to setup a test so we can
determine the value of your
>  >> data please
>  >> contact me at
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > What company would this be for?
>
>  A domain squatting company, presumably.


Thanks, I know. I wanted to stimulate a thread that was
archived for
others historical reference.

-M<

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Steve Atkins <steveblighty.com> wrote:

>  He's Marlon Phillips, marlonmapcom.net, I'm pretty
sure, though which
>  particular squatter company he represents, I've no
idea.


where does mapcom.net go? bizland.net ... registered through
verisign
and hosted at ipowerweb? Their website (www.mapcom.net) has
a
sedo-parking park-page, perhaps marlon works for
sedoparking?

-Chris

On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Steve Atkins
<steveblighty.com>  
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Martin Hannigan
wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Ray Demain
wrote:
>>>> We are looking to purchase NXDOMAIN data
for an internet survey.
>>>>
>>>> We prefer to receive the data on an hourly
basis so it is as  
>>>> fresh as
>>>> possible. Our system receives the data from
you via ftp that you
>>>> provide.
>>>> Its hard to value the data until we have
taken a look at it. As one
>>>> example,
>>>> we pay a current partner $4000 per month
for 100,000 records per
>>>> day. If you
>>>> would like to setup a test so we can
determine the value of your
>>>> data please
>>>> contact me at
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What company would this be for?
>>
>> A domain squatting company, presumably.
>
>
> Thanks, I know. I wanted to stimulate a thread that was
archived for
> others historical reference.

Yeah, me too.

He's also apparently Mr Domain Investments LLC, Mr
herbalclicks.com,
was typosquatting on a bunch of t-mobile domains until they
took them
away from him -
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisio
ns/html/2007/d2007-0919.html
- and was sued by Microsoft for sending CAN-SPAM violating
spam to
hotmail users a couple of years back in the myauctionbiz.biz
case -
http://spamkings.oreilly.com/MSFT-vs-Myauctionbizbiz.pdf
 .

I wonder who he's paying for his nxdomain data, and whether
that
someone is authorized to sell it. It strikes me that it's
just a small
step for someone with access to ISP internal data to go from
selling
DNS logs to selling usernames too.

Cheers,
   Steve

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Steve Atkins <steveblighty.com> wrote:

[ snip ]

>  I wonder who he's paying for his nxdomain data, and
whether that
>  someone is authorized to sell it. It strikes me that
it's just a small
>  step for someone with access to ISP internal data to
go from selling
>  DNS logs to selling usernames too.

This is tip of the iceberg level activity. These people are
exploiting
"unique identifiers" i.e. domains names and IP
addresses. We need to
fear them, and respond appropriately. They are disruptive to
the
Internet, to the users and commerce.


-M<