Nvu User Guide

Olli, here it is:

http://www.dirfile.com/lightspeed_website_optimizer.htm


cheers

/Curt E

2006-05-27 kl. 17.56 skrev Olli J. Marttila:

>  Charles Cooke kirjoitti:Mike,
>>
>>  One of the ways you can tell that people have been
using Nvu is the 
>> blank lines. I wondered if you suspected that I
cheated and said I 
>> used it when I didn't!!!
>>
>>  Until yesterday (literally) I was using Nvu alone
and getting no 
>> blank lines. That happens if you set Tools >
Preferences > Retain 
>> original source formatting.
>>
>>  The problem with that is that though the blank
lines disappear other 
>> lines become concatenated which makes them
difficult to read.
>>
>>  I had lived with those files for some time and was
doing some 
>> clearing up before finally publishing them (getting
rid of   for 
>> example) and decided that the source did not look
pretty. So I 
>> decided to go back to using Tools > Preferences
> Reformat HTML 
>> source. Of course the blank lines reappear. I then
passed the code 
>> through 'Lightspeed'. This is a freeware 
>> http://ww
w.moo3.at/bladefist/lightspeed.htm program that Gerry 
>> Mulever mentioned on the forum some time ago.
>>
>
> Unfortunetely there may be something wrong with the
URL:
>
> "The requested URL was not found on this
server."
>
>  Olli the Greybearded
>   
>
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Bernie,

Read and rejoice

CE


2006-05-27 kl. 18.40 skrev Curt Eiworth:

> Olli, here it is:
>
> http://www.dirfile.com/lightspeed_website_optimizer.htm
>
>
> cheers
>
> /Curt E
>
> 2006-05-27 kl. 17.56 skrev Olli J. Marttila:
>
>>  Charles Cooke kirjoitti:Mike,
>>>
>>>  One of the ways you can tell that people have
been using Nvu is the 
>>> blank lines. I wondered if you suspected that I
cheated and said I 
>>> used it when I didn't!!!
>>>
>>>  Until yesterday (literally) I was using Nvu
alone and getting no 
>>> blank lines. That happens if you set Tools >
Preferences > Retain 
>>> original source formatting.
>>>
>>>  The problem with that is that though the blank
lines disappear 
>>> other lines become concatenated which makes
them difficult to read.
>>>
>>>  I had lived with those files for some time and
was doing some 
>>> clearing up before finally publishing them
(getting rid of   
>>> for example) and decided that the source did
not look pretty. So I 
>>> decided to go back to using Tools >
Preferences > Reformat HTML 
>>> source. Of course the blank lines reappear. I
then passed the code 
>>> through 'Lightspeed'. This is a freeware 
>>> http://ww
w.moo3.at/bladefist/lightspeed.htm program that Gerry 
>>> Mulever mentioned on the forum some time ago.
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunetely there may be something wrong with the
URL:
>>
>> "The requested URL was not found on this
server."
>>
>>  Olli the Greybearded
>>   
>>
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> Eiworth Publishing
> Tel: +46-(0)8-648 0195
> Cell: +46-(0)70-760 0301
>
>
Curt Eiworth <curteiworth.se>
Eiworth Publishing
Tel: +46-(0)8-648 0195
Cell: +46-(0)70-760 0301

Curt Eiworth kirjoitti:
> Olli, here it is:
>
> http://www.dirfile.com/lightspeed_website_optimizer.htm
>
>
> cheers
>
> /Curt E
>
> 2
Sorry to tell you that this site too leads to a site where
"File Not 
Found", as well as do www.topshareware.com, 
www.soft32.com, 
www.popularshareware.com, etc.; all those links lead to
www.moo3.at. 
Maybe the site is closed for weekend :-\ . Checking again
next week.

Olli the Greybeard

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Hi Olli,
LightSpeed Website Optimizer is available through simtel try
this link:
http://tinyurl.com/lo6fk
I've never used it so I can't tell you if it's any good!
(Looks OK though)
Regards
Tony Franks


Olli J. Marttila wrote:
> Curt Eiworth kirjoitti:
>> Olli, here it is:
>>
>> http://www.dirfile.com/lightspeed_website_optimizer.htm
>>
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> /Curt E
>>
>> 2
> Sorry to tell you that this site too leads to a site
where "File Not 
> Found", as well as do www.topshareware.com, 
www.soft32.com, 
> www.popularshareware.com, etc.; all those links lead to
www.moo3.at. 
> Maybe the site is closed for weekend :-\ . Checking
again next week.
>
> Olli the Greybeard
>
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Tony Franks kirjoitti:
> Hi Olli,
> LightSpeed Website Optimizer is available through
simtel try this link:
> http://tinyurl.com/lo6fk
> I've never used it so I can't tell you if it's any
good! (Looks OK 
> though)
> Regards
> Tony Franks
>
Thanks, Tony, for the link. As I have not visited Simtel
since I changed 
my OS from OS/2 and WinNT to WinXP and Linux years ago, this
site did 
not pop up in my mind. The file was available in one site
only, and it 
was an earlier version. However, I will check what I can do
with it. (As 
a matter of fact, I have not had any particular problems
with NVU. Maybe 
this follows from my earlier modest experience with writing
HTML code 
during the bad old Win31 days.)

Olli the Greybearded

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A question to you all:

Although I have used Adobe Go live for a couple of years,
I'm a firm 
believer in NVU and force myself to use it all the time. It
works and my 
problem is not with NVU as such but with CSS. On the site 
http://www.helene-vermot
e.ca you'll find that everything is fine with 
the firefox browser but IE-6 give me a problem. I use a
class style for 
a box with a fixed height and auto width or a fixed width
and auto height.

In IE my thumbs will be deformed but when I click on it it
will set 
things straight and for that page from there on in
everything will be 
OK. Even the linked document is OK.

How can I hack this thing? My CSS Mastery book gives some
clues but so 
far the bug is there to stay.

Can any  one take a look at my CSS and HTML sheets and
suggest something?

Thanks

John



-- 
John Stap
STAP-multimedia
1565 Calixa-Lavallée
Trois-Rivières, Québec
G8Y3G1 CANADA

tél: 819-694-1622



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Age-Jan Stap wrote:
> A question to you all:
>
> Although I have used Adobe Go live for a couple of
years, I'm a firm 
> believer in NVU and force myself to use it all the
time. It works and 
> my problem is not with NVU as such but with CSS. On the
site 
> http://www.helene-vermot
e.ca you'll find that everything is fine with 
> the firefox browser but IE-6 give me a problem. I use a
class style 
> for a box with a fixed height and auto width or a fixed
width and auto 
> height.
>
> In IE my thumbs will be deformed but when I click on it
it will set 
> things straight and for that page from there on in
everything will be 
> OK. Even the linked document is OK.
>
> How can I hack this thing? My CSS Mastery book gives
some clues but so 
> far the bug is there to stay.
>
> Can any  one take a look at my CSS and HTML sheets and
suggest something?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>

I think you are asking the viewer's browser to resize the
images 
on-the-fly. I would size the thumbnails properly in my image
editor 
before uploading them instead of resizing them during
display. That 
would make them display the same in all browsers. Let the
text flow to 
accommodate different display sizes, but keep images at a
fixed size, 
under your control.

---- Jerry Muelver

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Hi Jerry,

My first disign was with fixed thumbs and what have you but
it is so 
much easier to have this in a style sheet so that you can
tweak the 
overall layout. This problem came up when I was not
satisfied with my 
blackbackground layout with white text and white borders
etc.... I 
decided to make it easier for the future and redid
everything as much as 
poissible with a style sheet. I even split my nav stuff of
to another 
style sheet in order to deal will the general layout only.

In Firfox I have no problem and most likely in Netscape
neither.

This is something IE and thus must be hacked to work the way
I want it!

Only as a last resort will I accept to go back to the fixed
format 
(either photoshop or direct on the web page.

Stubborn? maybe but that can be a positive also...

Thanks for your help

John

 

Jerry Muelver a écrit :
> Age-Jan Stap wrote:
>> A question to you all:
>>
>> Although I have used Adobe Go live for a couple of
years, I'm a firm 
>> believer in NVU and force myself to use it all the
time. It works and 
>> my problem is not with NVU as such but with CSS. On
the site 
>> http://www.helene-vermot
e.ca you'll find that everything is fine with 
>> the firefox browser but IE-6 give me a problem. I
use a class style 
>> for a box with a fixed height and auto width or a
fixed width and 
>> auto height.
>>
>> In IE my thumbs will be deformed but when I click
on it it will set 
>> things straight and for that page from there on in
everything will be 
>> OK. Even the linked document is OK.
>>
>> How can I hack this thing? My CSS Mastery book
gives some clues but 
>> so far the bug is there to stay.
>>
>> Can any  one take a look at my CSS and HTML sheets
and suggest 
>> something?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John
>>
>
> I think you are asking the viewer's browser to resize
the images 
> on-the-fly. I would size the thumbnails properly in my
image editor 
> before uploading them instead of resizing them during
display. That 
> would make them display the same in all browsers. Let
the text flow to 
> accommodate different display sizes, but keep images at
a fixed size, 
> under your control.
>
> ---- Jerry Muelver
>
>
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1565 Calixa-Lavallée
Trois-Rivières, Québec
G8Y3G1 CANADA

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That is a very clean, visually attractive site.

I don't have an answer other than a neophyte's guess: 
Have you tried 
setting the doctype so that it will run in IE quirks mode?

regards,
Craig
p.s. apologies for branching out the subject header...old
habit...

Age-Jan Stap wrote:

> A question to you all:
>
> Although I have used Adobe Go live for a couple of
years, I'm a firm 
> believer in NVU and force myself to use it all the
time. It works and 
> my problem is not with NVU as such but with CSS. On the
site 
> http://www.helene-vermot
e.ca you'll find that everything is fine with 
> the firefox browser but IE-6 give me a problem. I use a
class style 
> for a box with a fixed height and auto width or a fixed
width and auto 
> height.
>
> In IE my thumbs will be deformed but when I click on it
it will set 
> things straight and for that page from there on in
everything will be 
> OK. Even the linked document is OK.
>
> How can I hack this thing? My CSS Mastery book gives
some clues but so 
> far the bug is there to stay.
>
> Can any  one take a look at my CSS and HTML sheets and
suggest something?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
>
>


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 Hi all,

Today I was reading on the web a suggestion that you should
enter a 
min-height: 5em; if you also want to enter a height: auto;
statement in 
the class definition below. I tried it and it did not do
anything for me.

I asked myself why not let this height: auto; statement out
completely ?!

It  works in IE6, Netscape and Firfox

 .thumbs { border: 2px solid ;
    margin: 0px 20px 10px 0px;
    padding: 10px;
    color: black;
    width: 120px;
    float: left;
    }

Any comments?


John




Age-Jan Stap a écrit :
> A question to you all:
>
> Although I have used Adobe Go live for a couple of
years, I'm a firm 
> believer in NVU and force myself to use it all the
time. It works and 
> my problem is not with NVU as such but with CSS. On the
site 
> http://www.helene-vermot
e.ca you'll find that everything is fine with 
> the firefox browser but IE-6 give me a problem. I use a
class style 
> for a box with a fixed height and auto width or a fixed
width and auto 
> height.
>
> In IE my thumbs will be deformed but when I click on it
it will set 
> things straight and for that page from there on in
everything will be 
> OK. Even the linked document is OK.
>
> How can I hack this thing? My CSS Mastery book gives
some clues but so 
> far the bug is there to stay.
>
> Can any  one take a look at my CSS and HTML sheets and
suggest something?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
>
>


-- 
John Stap
STAP-multimedia
1565 Calixa-Lavallée
Trois-Rivières, Québec
G8Y3G1 CANADA

tél: 819-694-1622



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