Few more license questions

In the quest for a Open-Xchange version that can be included
with Free
software distributions like Debian and Fedora, I have a few
more
question regarding the licenses.

Under what license are all files in version 0.7.5
distributed ?

Under what license are all files in version 0.8.0 to
0.8.2-RC3
distributed ?

Do I understand correctly that distributing the whole tar.gz
archive
under the GPL (like what was done with versions prior to
0.8.2) means
all files in the archive are licensed under the GPL? And
that the "(c)
Netline Internet Service GmbH. All rights reserved."
does not imply that
those files aren't licensed under the GPL?

- Erwin



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Hi Erwin,
I think they are _not_ covered by GPL.
Cheers,
Balint

--- Erwin Rol <mailinglistserwinrol.com> wrote:

> In the quest for a Open-Xchange version that can be
included with
> Free
> software distributions like Debian and Fedora, I have a
few more
> question regarding the licenses.
> 
> Under what license are all files in version 0.7.5
distributed ?
> 
> Under what license are all files in version 0.8.0 to
0.8.2-RC3
> distributed ?
> 
> Do I understand correctly that distributing the whole
tar.gz archive
> under the GPL (like what was done with versions prior
to 0.8.2) means
> all files in the archive are licensed under the GPL?
And that the
> "(c)
> Netline Internet Service GmbH. All rights
reserved." does not imply
> that
> those files aren't licensed under the GPL?
> 
> - Erwin
> 
> 
> 
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On May 13, 2006 03:29 PM, Erwin Rol <mailinglistserwinrol.com> wrote:

> In the quest for a Open-Xchange version that can be
included with Free
> software distributions like Debian and Fedora, I have a
few more
> question regarding the licenses.
> 
> Under what license are all files in version 0.7.5
distributed ?
> 
> Under what license are all files in version 0.8.0 to
0.8.2-RC3
> distributed ?
> 
> Do I understand correctly that distributing the whole
tar.gz archive
> under the GPL (like what was done with versions prior
to 0.8.2) means
> all files in the archive are licensed under the GPL?
And that the "(c)
> Netline Internet Service GmbH. All rights
reserved." does not imply that
> those files aren't licensed under the GPL?
> 
> - Erwin
> 


Hi.

Every version before was licensed under the GPL - like you
can see
in the source code - and normal copyright material like you
found out
and you have cited above. Images and logos may fall under
any other
category. Here is a forums thread which is maybe interesting
for you
as well: http://www.open-xchange.org/cg
i-bin/simpleforum.cgi?fid=01&topic_id=1146712501

And because we are not a bunch of lawyers here in Olpe (the
lawyers do not
understand us if we start talking about such topics) but
developers, we got
told to change this and the outcome was a GPL/CC packages
which overwhelmed
us with positive feedback (as you know, i am just kidding by
saying that).

Finally, i said that i go back and discuss this internally
and we did this.
We will have a solution for distributions who do not accept
the CC. The result
will come close to my first ideas which i have pointed out
here on the list.


Greetings and have a nice weekend,

Martin Kauss






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On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 17:29 +0200, Martin Kauss wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Every version before was licensed under the GPL - like
you can see
> in the source code - and normal copyright material like
you found out
> and you have cited above. Images and logos may fall
under any other
> category. Here is a forums thread which is maybe
interesting for you
> as well: http://www.open-xchange.org/cg
i-bin/simpleforum.cgi?fid=01&topic_id=1146712501

Copyright material has to be licensed too, cause else it is
not allowed
at all to copy it. So the question still stands if every
single file in
the pre-0.8.2 version (the one without the CC license) is
licensed under
the GPL. 

> And because we are not a bunch of lawyers here in Olpe
(the lawyers do not
> understand us if we start talking about such topics)
but developers, we got
> told to change this and the outcome was a GPL/CC
packages which overwhelmed
> us with positive feedback (as you know, i am just
kidding by saying that).
> 
> Finally, i said that i go back and discuss this
internally and we did this.
> We will have a solution for distributions who do not
accept the CC. The result
> will come close to my first ideas which i have pointed
out here on the list.

It has been more than a month now since this message, I
would like to
ask if there has been made any progress?

- Erwin






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On Jun 20, 2006 09:55 AM, Erwin Rol <mailinglistserwinrol.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 17:29 +0200, Martin Kauss wrote:
> 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > Every version before was licensed under the GPL -
like you can see
> > in the source code - and normal copyright material
like you found out
> > and you have cited above. Images and logos may
fall under any other
> > category. Here is a forums thread which is maybe
interesting for you
> > as well: http://www.open-xchange.org/cg
i-bin/simpleforum.cgi?fid=01&topic_id=1146712501
> 
> Copyright material has to be licensed too, cause else
it is not allowed
> at all to copy it. So the question still stands if
every single file in
> the pre-0.8.2 version (the one without the CC license)
is licensed under
> the GPL. 
> 


I answered this clearly in the last mails and now you start
again
with the same kind of questions.



> > And because we are not a bunch of lawyers here in
Olpe (the lawyers do not
> > understand us if we start talking about such
topics) but developers, we got
> > told to change this and the outcome was a GPL/CC
packages which overwhelmed
> > us with positive feedback (as you know, i am just
kidding by saying that).
> > 
> > Finally, i said that i go back and discuss this
internally and we did this.
> > We will have a solution for distributions who do
not accept the CC. The result
> > will come close to my first ideas which i have
pointed out here on the list.
> 
> It has been more than a month now since this message, I
would like to
> ask if there has been made any progress?
> 


Information about the progress:

http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/downlo
ad.htm
http:
//www.open-xchange.com/EN/legal/ccfaq.html
http://www.open-xch
ange.org/cgi-bin/simpleforum.cgi?fid=01&topic_id=1146712
501&page=1



> - Erwin
> 
> 



Greetings,

Martin Kauss




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