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Access Control Mechanism (DAC x MAC)
user name
2007-07-03 20:32:01
Hi all,

Having Read about computer security, one of the parts that
mostly
called up my atention were the access control mechanisms.
I've found
out that the mechanism used by mostly of the Unix-like
systems is DAC
(Discretionary Access Control) and as I could see OpenBSD
fits in that
mechanism as well. But the literature says that there is a
more
sophisticated mechanism, called MAC (Mandatory Access
Control). In my
studies, all the papers I have read explain that
MAC is much more sophiscitated that DAC. Thus I would like
to know
from you why OpenBSD does not implement this type of
mechanism.

Thanks.


Re: Access Control Mechanism (DAC x MAC)
country flaguser name
United States
2007-07-03 21:03:12
Joco Salvatti wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Having Read about computer security, one of the parts
that mostly
> called up my atention were the access control
mechanisms. I've found
> out that the mechanism used by mostly of the Unix-like
systems is DAC
> (Discretionary Access Control) and as I could see
OpenBSD fits in that
> mechanism as well. But the literature says that there
is a more
> sophisticated mechanism, called MAC (Mandatory Access
Control). In my
> studies, all the papers I have read explain that
> MAC is much more sophiscitated that DAC. Thus I would
like to know
> from you why OpenBSD does not implement this type of
mechanism.
>

if you've ever played the mortal combat games, this post
conjures to 
mind the sound that occurs immediately prior to a
fatality...

> Thanks.


Re: Access Control Mechanism (DAC x MAC)
country flaguser name
Taiwan
2007-07-03 22:18:44
Joco Salvatti wrote:

> MAC is much more sophiscitated that DAC. Thus I would
like to know
> from you why OpenBSD does not implement this type of
mechanism.

More sophisticated != better.
The longer answer is in the archives.

---
Lars Hansson


Re: Access Control Mechanism (DAC x MAC)
country flaguser name
Canada
2007-07-03 22:24:31
> Having Read about computer security, one of the parts
that mostly
> called up my atention were the access control
mechanisms. I've found
> out that the mechanism used by mostly of the Unix-like
systems is DAC
> (Discretionary Access Control) and as I could see
OpenBSD fits in that
> mechanism as well. But the literature says that there
is a more
> sophisticated mechanism, called MAC (Mandatory Access
Control). In my
> studies, all the papers I have read explain that
> MAC is much more sophiscitated that DAC. Thus I would
like to know
> from you why OpenBSD does not implement this type of
mechanism.

Because it is dumb, and due to it's complexity it impliments
a serious
systems lifetime trap for system administrators --- most of
who are
not much smarter than a sack of hammers (excluding those of
you
reading this, of course).

Look, complexity does not avert risk.  Ever.  Period.


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