ADVERT: C12G

Ultra-Secure Communications:

C12-GAMMA; a free software product for FreeBSD/Linux:

http://www.leopard.uk.
com/cion

Sincerely,
R Carey.

This is probably not the right place for your software. 
OpenBSD may  
be used to drop bombs on Australia, which likely counts as
terrorism  
and conflicts with your licensing goals.

On 10-Jul-07, at 4:02 AM, Robin Carey wrote:

> Ultra-Secure Communications:
>
> C12-GAMMA; a free software product for FreeBSD/Linux:
>
> http://www.leopard.uk.
com/cion
>
> Sincerely,
> R Carey.

Jeremy Huiskamp <jhuiskamcs-club.org> writes:

> This is probably not the right place for your software.
 OpenBSD may
> be used to drop bombs on Australia, which likely counts
as terrorism
> and conflicts with your licensing goals.

Last time I looked there was no indication on their web site
that
they'd made any effort to support OpenBSD either.  So I kind
of lost
interest.

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149
implementation team
http://www.blug.lin
ux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network
traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after
42673 seconds.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 08:34:00AM +0200, Peter N. M.
Hansteen wrote:
> Jeremy Huiskamp <jhuiskamcs-club.org> writes:
> > This is probably not the right place for your
software.  OpenBSD may
> > be used to drop bombs on Australia, which likely
counts as terrorism
> > and conflicts with your licensing goals.
> 
> Last time I looked there was no indication on their web
site that
> they'd made any effort to support OpenBSD either.  So I
kind of lost
> interest.

That, and Schneier's 'snake oil' may well apply.

		Joachim

-- 
TFMotD: ip (4) - Internet Protocol

Joachim Schipper <j.schippermath.uu.nl> wrote:
> Subject: Re: ADVERT: C12G
...
> That, and Schneier's 'snake oil' may well apply.
...

Almost certainly applies.  See
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/401bd3
58ad9f651e

					-Marcus Watts

On 7/11/07, Marcus Watts <mdwspam.ifs.umich.edu>
wrote:
> Joachim Schipper <j.schippermath.uu.nl> wrote:
> > Subject: Re: ADVERT: C12G
> ...
> > That, and Schneier's 'snake oil' may well apply.
> ...
>
> Almost certainly applies.  See
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/401bd3
58ad9f651e
>
>                                         -Marcus Watts
>
>

Everything just smells snake oil. 'Ultra-Secure', yahoo.co.uk,
'superiority in itself'.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 12:58:07PM +0200, Karl Sj??dahl -
dunceor wrote:
> On 7/11/07, Marcus Watts <mdwspam.ifs.umich.edu>
wrote:
> >Joachim Schipper <j.schippermath.uu.nl> wrote:
> >> Subject: Re: ADVERT: C12G
> >> [...] Schneier's 'snake oil' may well apply.
> >Almost certainly applies.  See
> >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/401bd3
58ad9f651e
> >
> Everything just smells snake oil. 'Ultra-Secure', yahoo.co.uk,
> 'superiority in itself'.

Yes. Then again, their 'no paedophilia'-license would be
difficult to
enforce if the crypto was any good. Maybe this is just a
trap for
paedophiles? (Terrorists and war criminals are unlikely to
care about
being sued for a license violation, after all.)

		Joachim

-- 
TFMotD: acpiac (4) - ACPI AC adapter

"Karl Sjvdahl - dunceor" <dunceorgmail.com> writes:

> On 7/11/07, Marcus Watts <mdwspam.ifs.umich.edu>
wrote:
> > Joachim Schipper <j.schippermath.uu.nl> wrote:
> > > Subject: Re: ADVERT: C12G
> > ...
> > > That, and Schneier's 'snake oil' may well
apply.
> > ...
> >
> > Almost certainly applies.  See
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.crypt/msg/401bd3
58ad9f651e
> >
> >                                         -Marcus
Watts
> >
> >
> 
> Everything just smells snake oil. 'Ultra-Secure', yahoo.co.uk,
> 'superiority in itself'.

Including the name of the person who is known to submit
patches once in
a while that every time break the random generation in the
system using
arguments like "it uses xor because xor is a one time
pad and therefore
unbreakable".

I believe that the name is actually a conspiracy of people
who test
the cryptography vigilance of the BSD projects by saying
completly
whacko things and seeing how fast they get debunked. In a
few years
there will be a scientific paper with graphs over response
speed and
the amount of sarcasm and laughing.

//art

On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 09:02 +0100, Robin Carey wrote:
> Ultra-Secure Communications:
> 
> C12-GAMMA; a free software product for FreeBSD/Linux:
> 
> http://www.leopard.uk.
com/cion

Remmber that today, the Boston Tea Party would be considered
a terrorist
act, but it was necessary for the American Revolution to
succeed. So I
think the proper place for your anti-freedom license,
however well
intentioned, is a place where the sun does not shine.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn <skquinnspeakeasy.net>