gtk2 font issue

hi there,

i am sure quite many people have noticed that there is
something
fishy with the capital T letter in the way it shows up in
gtk2 (anti-aliased) applications.

my very vague guess is that "T" might have
incorrect
kerning info or something.

i was wondering if someone more versed in gtk2/x11/fonts
could shed some light on this.

here's an example:
http://ge
any.uvena.de/images/geany_main.png

the "Tools" menu, the "To" is clearly
rendered
in a very strange way.

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frantisek holop wrote:
> hi there,
> 
> i am sure quite many people have noticed that there is
something
> fishy with the capital T letter in the way it shows up
in
> gtk2 (anti-aliased) applications.
> 
> my very vague guess is that "T" might have
incorrect
> kerning info or something.
> 
> i was wondering if someone more versed in
gtk2/x11/fonts
> could shed some light on this.
> 
> here's an example:
> http://ge
any.uvena.de/images/geany_main.png
> 
> the "Tools" menu, the "To" is
clearly rendered
> in a very strange way.
> 

Which OpenBSD and X  versions are you using ? Is that 4.1 or
-current
with xenocara ? If you updated to xenocara, you should wipe
/etc/fonts
and extract the new one from xetc.

-- 
Matthieu Herrb

hmm, on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:26:25PM +0200, Matthieu
Herrb said that
> frantisek holop wrote:
> > hi there,
> > 
> > i am sure quite many people have noticed that
there is something
> > fishy with the capital T letter in the way it
shows up in
> > gtk2 (anti-aliased) applications.
> > 
> > my very vague guess is that "T" might
have incorrect
> > kerning info or something.
> > 
> > i was wondering if someone more versed in
gtk2/x11/fonts
> > could shed some light on this.
> > 
> > here's an example:
> > http://ge
any.uvena.de/images/geany_main.png
> > 
> > the "Tools" menu, the "To" is
clearly rendered
> > in a very strange way.
> > 
> 
> Which OpenBSD and X  versions are you using ? Is that
4.1 or -current
> with xenocara ? If you updated to xenocara, you should
wipe /etc/fonts
> and extract the new one from xetc.

no, not xenocara, stock 4.1.  but the example i sent is not
even openbsd, i think this is uniform with gtk2 and it's
default font's "T".  i can't speak for xenocara
systems
because i haven't tried it, but i think this is the case
on any system and any app (gimp, etc) that uses gtk2.

you, as someone who probably uses xenocara, could you
please
have a look and post a screenshot of any gtk2 app that
has somewhere a word with "T" in it under
xenocara?
i wouldn't be surprised if it was the same.

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hmm, on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:39:36PM +0200, frantisek
holop said that
> no, not xenocara, stock 4.1.  but the example i sent is
not
> even openbsd, i think this is uniform with gtk2 and
it's
> default font's "T".  i can't speak for
xenocara systems
> because i haven't tried it, but i think this is the
case
> on any system and any app (gimp, etc) that uses gtk2.

another example
h
ttp://developer.gimp.org/screenshots/gimp-misc.png

the font is bigger, but the o is clearly under the T's hat.
perhaps it is intentional, but it doesn't look very good
especially with smaller font sizes.

is anybody from here active on the gtk2 devel mailing lists
and ask about this?

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