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| RE: combining JSP an JavaScript |
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2007-02-01 09:56:14 |
The key is that the OpenCms type needs to be JSP. The
extension in the
name can still be "js" (i.e. it need not have a
"jsp" extension).
I do this all the time. In fact, all my normal jsp pages
have an
extension of "html" instead of "jsp".
OpenCms is nice in the fact that
it handles the complexity of using the "wrong"
extension for jsp pages
behind the scenes.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: opencms-dev-bounces opencms.org
[mailto:opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org] On Behalf Of
Guillaume Lederrey
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:25 AM
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript
> I thought the cms-tags will be inserted with the
information before
the
> script is sended to the client
> so why is it working with css but not with
javascript?
I havent tried it myself but ...
A ".js" file sould be treated as a simple
resource, and should not
be interpreted by OpenCms. If you want to have dynamic
content inside
you .js file, you should declare it as a JSP file. You can
than
include "myJavaScript.jsp" in your template and it
should work.
Good luck
Guillaume
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| Re: |
 
Germany |
2007-02-04 02:16:59 |
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do you think it is very "unconventional" if I mix JSP and CSS?
like different background images on every load of the css?
best regards volkmar
Scott Carlson schrieb:
newman.optionvue.local"
type="cite">
The key is that the OpenCms type needs to be JSP. The extension in the
name can still be "js" (i.e. it need not have a "jsp" extension).
I do this all the time. In fact, all my normal jsp pages have an
extension of "html" instead of "jsp". OpenCms is nice in the fact that
it handles the complexity of using the "wrong" extension for jsp pages
behind the scenes.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: opencms.org">opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org
[opencms.org">mailto:opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Lederrey
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:25 AM
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript
I thought the cms-tags will be inserted with the information before
the
script is sended to the client
so why is it working with css but not with javascript?
I havent tried it myself but ...
A ".js" file sould be treated as a simple resource, and should not
be interpreted by OpenCms. If you want to have dynamic content inside
you .js file, you should declare it as a JSP file. You can than
include "myJavaScript.jsp" in your template and it should work.
Good luck
Guillaume
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Diplomand
e-tecture GmbH
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76133 Karlsruhe
Tel: +49 721 570458-17
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| RE: |
 
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2007-02-04 06:17:01 |
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It's not that unconventional - after all, all it means is
there may need to be some element of the CSS which is
dynamic.
However, you may find a problem if you expect a CSS to be
loaded on each request. Browsers tend to cache linked stylesheet files for
longer than they're meant to, in my experience, so you can't reliably use a CSS
for the purpose you describe. Instead, you could make the background style
part of the main page itself ("<body style="background: url(....)"
).
Jon
do you think it is very "unconventional" if I mix JSP and
CSS?
like different background images on every load of the
css?
best regards volkmar
Scott Carlson schrieb:
newman.optionvue.local
type="cite">The key is that the OpenCms type needs to be JSP. The extension in the
name can still be "js" (i.e. it need not have a "jsp" extension).
I do this all the time. In fact, all my normal jsp pages have an
extension of "html" instead of "jsp". OpenCms is nice in the fact that
it handles the complexity of using the "wrong" extension for jsp pages
behind the scenes.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: opencms.org">opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org
[opencms.org">mailto:opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Lederrey
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:25 AM
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript
I thought the cms-tags will be inserted with the information before
the
script is sended to the client
so why is it working with css but not with javascript?
I havent tried it myself but ...
A ".js" file sould be treated as a simple resource, and should not
be interpreted by OpenCms. If you want to have dynamic content inside
you .js file, you should declare it as a JSP file. You can than
include "myJavaScript.jsp" in your template and it should work.
Good luck
Guillaume
--
Mit
freundlichen Grüßen
Volkmar Emberger
Diplomand
e-tecture
GmbH
Hirschstraße 2
76133 Karlsruhe
Tel: +49 721 570458-17
Fax:
+49 721 1205468
e-tecture.com">volkmar.embergere-tecture.com
www.e-tecture.com
e-tecture
GmbH
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Frankfurt am Main
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| RE: |
Germany |
2007-02-04 23:57:27 |
I do create CSS files from JSP's. But, the final output is
static (i.e. from request to request, it is the same). I
personally would not create CSS files that change from
request to request.
If I were using a style that changed from page to page, I
would set that style in the HEAD of each specific page. That
allows the CSS file to be cached by the browser, and also
allows for the dynamic changing of a few specific styles.
Even if style sheet files are properly loaded for each
request, I think there might be side effects of the changing
style sheets. For example, image displaying page A, then
page B, then using the browser to display the previous page.
Will page A display with page B style sheet? That would be
my guess...
Scott
________________________________
From: opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org on behalf of
Jonathan Woods
Sent: Sun 2/4/2007 6:17 AM
To: 'The OpenCms mailing list'
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript +
[edit: and CSS]
It's not that unconventional - after all, all it means is
there may need to be some element of the CSS which is
dynamic.
However, you may find a problem if you expect a CSS to be
loaded on each request. Browsers tend to cache linked
stylesheet files for longer than they're meant to, in my
experience, so you can't reliably use a CSS for the purpose
you describe. Instead, you could make the background style
part of the main page itself ("<body
style="background: url(....)" ).
Jon
________________________________
From: sfdbfouihost2.scintillance.com
[mailto:sfdbfouihost2.scintillance.com] On Behalf Of
Volkmar Emberger
Sent: 04 February 2007 08:17
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript +
[edit: and CSS]
do you think it is very "unconventional" if I mix
JSP and CSS?
like different background images on every load of the css?
best regards volkmar
Scott Carlson schrieb:
The key is that the OpenCms type needs to be JSP. The
extension in the
name can still be "js" (i.e. it need not have a
"jsp" extension).
I do this all the time. In fact, all my normal jsp pages
have an
extension of "html" instead of "jsp".
OpenCms is nice in the fact that
it handles the complexity of using the "wrong"
extension for jsp pages
behind the scenes.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org
[mailto:opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org] On Behalf Of
Guillaume Lederrey
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:25 AM
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript
I thought the cms-tags will be inserted with the
information before
the
script is sended to the client
so why is it working with css but not with javascript?
I havent tried it myself but ...
A ".js" file sould be treated as a simple
resource, and should not
be interpreted by OpenCms. If you want to have dynamic
content inside
you .js file, you should declare it as a JSP file. You can
than
include "myJavaScript.jsp" in your template and
it should work.
Good luck
Guillaume
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Volkmar Emberger
Diplomand
e-tecture GmbH
Hirschstraße 2
76133 Karlsruhe
Tel: +49 721 570458-17
Fax: +49 721 1205468
volkmar.embergere-tecture.com
www.e-tecture.com
e-tecture GmbH
Darmstädter Landstraße 112
60598 Frankfurt am Main
Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main
HRB 56449
Gesellschaft mit Sitz in Frankfurt am Main
Geschäftsführer: Christian Schwab
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| RE: |
United Kingdom |
2007-02-05 02:12:44 |
I've found that I even have to rename my stylesheet from
build to build
(i.e. I include a build timestamp in the filename) just to
avoid the caching
issues.
Jon
_____
From: sfdbfouihost2.scintillance.com
[mailto:sfdbfouihost2.scintillance.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Carlson
Sent: 05 February 2007 05:57
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript +
[edit: and CSS]
I do create CSS files from JSP's. But, the final output is
static (i.e. from
request to request, it is the same). I personally would not
create CSS files
that change from request to request.
If I were using a style that changed from page to page, I
would set that
style in the HEAD of each specific page. That allows the CSS
file to be
cached by the browser, and also allows for the dynamic
changing of a few
specific styles.
Even if style sheet files are properly loaded for each
request, I think
there might be side effects of the changing style sheets.
For example, image
displaying page A, then page B, then using the browser to
display the
previous page. Will page A display with page B style sheet?
That would be my
guess...
Scott
_____
From: opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org on behalf of
Jonathan Woods
Sent: Sun 2/4/2007 6:17 AM
To: 'The OpenCms mailing list'
Subject: RE: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript +
[edit: and CSS]
It's not that unconventional - after all, all it means is
there may need to
be some element of the CSS which is dynamic.
However, you may find a problem if you expect a CSS to be
loaded on each
request. Browsers tend to cache linked stylesheet files for
longer than
they're meant to, in my experience, so you can't reliably
use a CSS for the
purpose you describe. Instead, you could make the
background style part of
the main page itself ("<body style="background:
url(....)" ).
Jon
_____
From: sfdbfouihost2.scintillance.com
[mailto:sfdbfouihost2.scintillance.com] On Behalf Of
Volkmar Emberger
Sent: 04 February 2007 08:17
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript +
[edit: and CSS]
do you think it is very "unconventional" if I mix
JSP and CSS?
like different background images on every load of the css?
best regards volkmar
Scott Carlson schrieb:
The key is that the OpenCms type needs to be JSP. The
extension in the
name can still be "js" (i.e. it need not have a
"jsp" extension).
I do this all the time. In fact, all my normal jsp pages
have an
extension of "html" instead of "jsp".
OpenCms is nice in the fact that
it handles the complexity of using the "wrong"
extension for jsp pages
behind the scenes.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org
[mailto:opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org] On Behalf Of
Guillaume Lederrey
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:25 AM
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript
I thought the cms-tags will be inserted with the
information before
the
script is sended to the client
so why is it working with css but not with javascript?
I havent tried it myself but ...
A ".js" file sould be treated as a simple
resource, and should not
be interpreted by OpenCms. If you want to have dynamic
content inside
you .js file, you should declare it as a JSP file. You can
than
include "myJavaScript.jsp" in your template and it
should work.
Good luck
Guillaume
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Volkmar Emberger
Diplomand
e-tecture GmbH
Hirschstraße 2
76133 Karlsruhe
Tel: +49 721 570458-17
Fax: +49 721 1205468
volkmar.embergere-tecture.com
www.e-tecture.com
e-tecture GmbH
Darmstädter Landstraße 112
60598 Frankfurt am Main
Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main
HRB 56449
Gesellschaft mit Sitz in Frankfurt am Main
Geschäftsführer: Christian Schwab
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2007-02-05 05:07:57 |
> I've found that I even have to rename my stylesheet
from build to build
> (i.e. I include a build timestamp in the filename) just
to avoid the caching
> issues.
You could also change the page itself. Define different
classes for
your different background images in the CSS. Than, change
the class in
the HTML everytime the HTML is generated. You will not
experience CSS
caching problems this way. One could argue that it would put
style
information in the HTML which is a bad thing. But it's just
a small
class tag, isnt it ?
Good luck,
Guillaume
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2007-02-05 11:35:23 |
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For me, it is mandatory to mix jsp and css.
CSS is for style, and if your backgound is style verse function, then I think you should use CSS. But it sounds like you need to look into skins for this. That way each page can determin a different skin that is defined in CSS.
xSkins is pretty good...
On 2/4/07, Volkmar Emberger < volkmar.embergere-tecture.com">volkmar.embergere-tecture.com
> wrote:
do you think it is very "unco nventional" if I mix JSP and CSS?
like different background images on every load of the css?
best regards volkmar
Scott Carlson schrieb:
newman.optionvue.local" type="cite">
The key is that the OpenCms type needs to be JSP. The extension in the
name can still be "js" (i.e. it need not have a "jsp" extension).
I do this all the time. In fact, all my normal jsp pages have an
extension of "html" instead of "jsp". OpenCms is nice in the fact that
it handles the complexity of using the "wrong" extension for jsp pages
behind the scenes.
Scott
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From: opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org
[ opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mailto:opencms-dev-bouncesopencms.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Lederrey
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:25 AM
To: The OpenCms mailing list
Subject: Re: [opencms-dev] combining JSP an JavaScript
I thought the cms-tags will be inserted with the information before
the
script is sended to the client
so why is it working with css but not with javascript?
I havent tried it myself but ...
A ".js" file sould be treated as a simple resource, and should not
be interpreted by OpenCms. If you want to have dynamic content inside
you .js file, you should declare it as a JSP file. You can than
include "myJavaScript.jsp" in your template and it should work.
Good luck
Guillaume
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Volkmar Emberger
Diplomand
e-tecture GmbH
Hirschstraße 2
76133 Karlsruhe
Tel: +49 721 570458-17
Fax: +49 721 1205468
volkmar.embergere-tecture.com" style="color: rgb(160, 20, 20);" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">volkmar.embergere-tecture.com
www.e-tecture.com
e-tecture GmbH
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60598 Frankfurt am Main
Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main
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