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Wishlist for future Laszlo releases
user name
2007-04-12 17:49:26

My wish list for Open Laszlo 4.5:

  • Lots of beginner to expert tutorials of full applications (with real world authentication & ;authorization & architecture best practices)
  • Books, books, books!
  • IDE agnostic UI Builder (something like what is available for TIBCO, o like Flexible for Flex)
  • Architectural Framework (something like Flex's Cairngorm but for Laszlo)
  • J2EE Integration (something like Flex's Granite project)
  • Interactive IDE integrated script debugger (even if only for Eclipse)

My wish list for Open Laszlo 5.0:

  • E4X support
  • ECMAScript 4 support
  • Something like GWT of Echo2 but with Laszlo as the underlying infrastructure. (Java only coding)
Re: Wishlist for future Laszlo releases
user name
2007-04-12 20:35:20
Francisco Jose Peredo wrote:
> My wish list for Open Laszlo 4.5:
> 
>     * Lots of beginner to expert tutorials of full
applications (/with
>       real world authentication & authorization
& architecture best
>       practices/)
>     * Books, books, books!
>     * IDE agnostic UI Builder (/something like what is
available for
>       TIBCO, o like Flexible for Flex/)
>     * Architectural Framework (/something like Flex's
Cairngorm but for
>       Laszlo/)
>     * J2EE Integration (/something like Flex's Granite
project/)
>     * Interactive IDE integrated script debugger (/even
if only for
>       Eclipse/)

I would also like to add:
     * SOAP and XML-RPC support on SOLO deployment.
     * An in-depth tutorial on how to extend the OpenLaszlo
compiler.

> 
> My wish list for Open Laszlo 5.0:
> 
>     * E4X support
>     * ECMAScript 4 support
>     * Something like GWT of Echo2 but with Laszlo as
the underlying
>       infrastructure. (/Java only coding/)
> 

OpenLaszlo 6.0
     * Non-Java based Presentation Server.
     * APIs for porting the Presentation Server to other
(lightweight) 
platforms.



Rock on,


[ simon.cpu ]






-- 
And /usr/games/fortune futurama says:

(talking to the Beastie Boys)
Fry: Wow. I love you guys. Back in the 20th century, I had
all five of
  your albums.
Ad-Rock: That was a thousand years ago. Now we got seven.
Fry: Cool. Can I borrow the new ones. And a couple of blank
tapes?

RE: Wishlist for future Laszlo releases
country flaguser name
United States
2007-04-13 08:09:18
Hi Francisco Jose Peredo

I am very excited to hear about your suggestions. I will try
to get more
materials to help developers. GeniTeam has contributed by
writing tutorial
for beginners (www.geniteam.com/papers/LaszloTutorial.zip)
and has developed
2 applications to demonstrate the Open Laszlo functionality
(http://www
.geniteam.com/GI_openSource.html). Their source code is
hosted at
http://sour
ceforge.net/projects/genitutor and
http://code.googl
e.com/p/geniforum. 
The front end is tried to mimic the design patterns used in
Cairngorm - We
will also try to document that. 

I think, IDE issue has prompted up many a times. I think,
that would be a
good contribution by open source developers. 

There are few other regional initiatives taken by ConnectIT
(www.connectIT.nl) to promote Open Laszlo in Netherland and
China
(http://www.openria.cn/) 


Regards,
Khurram Samad
GeniTeam
www.geniteam.com


 
-----Original Message-----
From: laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org
[mailto:laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org] On Behalf
Of Simon Cornelius P.
Umacob
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:35 PM
To: Francisco Jose Peredo
Cc: laszlo-useropenlaszlo.org
Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Wishlist for future Laszlo
releases

Francisco Jose Peredo wrote:
> My wish list for Open Laszlo 4.5:
> 
>     * Lots of beginner to expert tutorials of full
applications (/with
>       real world authentication & authorization
& architecture best
>       practices/)
>     * Books, books, books!
>     * IDE agnostic UI Builder (/something like what is
available for
>       TIBCO, o like Flexible for Flex/)
>     * Architectural Framework (/something like Flex's
Cairngorm but for
>       Laszlo/)
>     * J2EE Integration (/something like Flex's Granite
project/)
>     * Interactive IDE integrated script debugger (/even
if only for
>       Eclipse/)

I would also like to add:
     * SOAP and XML-RPC support on SOLO deployment.
     * An in-depth tutorial on how to extend the OpenLaszlo
compiler.

> 
> My wish list for Open Laszlo 5.0:
> 
>     * E4X support
>     * ECMAScript 4 support
>     * Something like GWT of Echo2 but with Laszlo as
the underlying
>       infrastructure. (/Java only coding/)
> 

OpenLaszlo 6.0
     * Non-Java based Presentation Server.
     * APIs for porting the Presentation Server to other
(lightweight) 
platforms.



Rock on,


[ simon.cpu ]






-- 
And /usr/games/fortune futurama says:

(talking to the Beastie Boys)
Fry: Wow. I love you guys. Back in the 20th century, I had
all five of
  your albums.
Ad-Rock: That was a thousand years ago. Now we got seven.
Fry: Cool. Can I borrow the new ones. And a couple of blank
tapes?


Re: Wishlist for future Laszlo releases
country flaguser name
United States
2007-04-13 10:16:27
You can add to your wish lists:

* Support for XML namespaces in XPath expressions.
* Allow XML Schema references in LZX documents.


Regards

Philip Fennell



-----Original Message-----
From: laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org
[mailto:laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org] On Behalf
Of Simon Cornelius
P. Umacob
Sent: 13 April 2007 02:35
To: Francisco Jose Peredo
Cc: laszlo-useropenlaszlo.org
Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Wishlist for future Laszlo
releases

Francisco Jose Peredo wrote:
> My wish list for Open Laszlo 4.5:
> 
>     * Lots of beginner to expert tutorials of full
applications (/with
>       real world authentication & authorization
& architecture best
>       practices/)
>     * Books, books, books!
>     * IDE agnostic UI Builder (/something like what is
available for
>       TIBCO, o like Flexible for Flex/)
>     * Architectural Framework (/something like Flex's
Cairngorm but
for
>       Laszlo/)
>     * J2EE Integration (/something like Flex's Granite
project/)
>     * Interactive IDE integrated script debugger (/even
if only for
>       Eclipse/)

I would also like to add:
     * SOAP and XML-RPC support on SOLO deployment.
     * An in-depth tutorial on how to extend the OpenLaszlo
compiler.

> 
> My wish list for Open Laszlo 5.0:
> 
>     * E4X support
>     * ECMAScript 4 support
>     * Something like GWT of Echo2 but with Laszlo as
the underlying
>       infrastructure. (/Java only coding/)
> 

OpenLaszlo 6.0
     * Non-Java based Presentation Server.
     * APIs for porting the Presentation Server to other
(lightweight)
platforms.



Rock on,


[ simon.cpu ]






-- 
And /usr/games/fortune futurama says:

(talking to the Beastie Boys)
Fry: Wow. I love you guys. Back in the 20th century, I had
all five of
  your albums.
Ad-Rock: That was a thousand years ago. Now we got seven.
Fry: Cool. Can I borrow the new ones. And a couple of blank
tapes?


Re: Wishlist for future Laszlo releases
user name
2007-04-13 10:30:23
Mmm... very interesting... i haven't found that many non-trivial examples until now...
I'll have to take a good look at all of them...
It is nice to see that a company is trying to push Laszlo adoption with such a big amount of enthusiasm...
Have you seen the Granite project? http://www.graniteds.org/confluence/display/INTRO/Granite+Data+Services+Overview.
How hard do you think it would be to  build a similar thing for Laszlo?
I'll download you examples and give you feedback
Thanks a lot
bye
Francisco



Khurram Samad escribió:
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Hi Francisco Jose Peredo

I am very excited to hear about your suggestions. I will try to get more
materials to help developers. GeniTeam has contributed by writing tutorial
for beginners (www.geniteam.com/papers/LaszloTutorial.zip) and has developed

2 applications to demonstrate the Open Laszlo functionality
(http://www.geniteam.com/GI_openSource.html). Their source code is hosted at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/genitutor and
http://code.google.com/p/geniforum. 
The front end is tried to mimic the design patterns used in Cairngorm - We
will also try to document that. 

I think, IDE issue has prompted up many a times. I think, that would be a
good contribution by open source developers. 

There are few other regional initiatives taken by ConnectIT

(www.connectIT.nl) to promote Open Laszlo in Netherland and China
(http://www.openria.cn/) 


Regards,
Khurram Samad
GeniTeam
www.geniteam.com


 
-----Original Message-----
From: openlaszlo.org">laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org
[openlaszlo.org">mailto:laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org] On Behalf Of Simon Cornelius P.
Umacob
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:35 PM
To: Francisco Jose Peredo
Cc: openlaszlo.org">laszlo-useropenlaszlo.org
Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Wishlist for future Laszlo releases

Francisco Jose Peredo wrote:
  
My wish list for Open Laszlo 4.5:

    * Lots of beginner to expert tutorials of full applications (/with
      real world authentication & authorization & architecture best
      practices/)
    * Books, books, books!
    * IDE agnostic UI Builder (/something like what is available for
      TIBCO, o like Flexible for Flex/)
    * Architectural Framework (/something like Flex's Cairngorm but for
      Laszlo/)
    * J2EE Integration (/something like Flex's Granite project/)

    * Interactive IDE integrated script debugger (/even if only for
      Eclipse/)

    

I would also like to add:
     * SOAP and XML-RPC support on SOLO deployment.
     * An in-depth tutorial on how to extend the OpenLaszlo compiler.


  
My wish list for Open Laszlo 5.0:

    * E4X support
    * ECMAScript 4 support
    * Something like GWT of Echo2 but with Laszlo as the underlying
      infrastructure. (/Java only coding/)

    

OpenLaszlo 6.0
     * Non-Java based Presentation Server.
     * APIs for porting the Presentation Server to other (lightweight) 
platforms.



Rock on,


[ simon.cpu ]







  

Re: Wishlist for future Laszlo releases
country flaguser name
United States
2007-04-13 11:38:39
Here are JIRA bugs for the some of the feature items in the
list, so  
you can vote for them:

* SOAP and XML-RPC support on SOLO deployment.
	http:/
/www.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-1184

* E4X support
	http:/
/www.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-1355
	http:/
/www.openlaszlo.org/jira/browse/LPP-1363

If you compile SOLO, you can (with some work) use any
server,  
including non-Java ones, for data proxy services and the
like. But  
there are specifics there that haven't been made as simple
as possible.

I would like to factor the compiler into a separate build
that  
doesn't require the entire server jar. There have also been 

suggestions that the server should be decomposed into
separate  
pieces: media proxy, data proxy, debug server, compile
server, etc.

jim

On Apr 13, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Fennell, Philip wrote:

> You can add to your wish lists:
>
> * Support for XML namespaces in XPath expressions.
> * Allow XML Schema references in LZX documents.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Philip Fennell
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org
> [mailto:laszlo-user-bouncesopenlaszlo.org] On Behalf
Of Simon  
> Cornelius
> P. Umacob
> Sent: 13 April 2007 02:35
> To: Francisco Jose Peredo
> Cc: laszlo-useropenlaszlo.org
> Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Wishlist for future Laszlo
releases
>
> Francisco Jose Peredo wrote:
>> My wish list for Open Laszlo 4.5:
>>
>>     * Lots of beginner to expert tutorials of full
applications (/ 
>> with
>>       real world authentication & authorization
& architecture best
>>       practices/)
>>     * Books, books, books!
>>     * IDE agnostic UI Builder (/something like what
is available for
>>       TIBCO, o like Flexible for Flex/)
>>     * Architectural Framework (/something like
Flex's Cairngorm but
> for
>>       Laszlo/)
>>     * J2EE Integration (/something like Flex's
Granite project/)
>>     * Interactive IDE integrated script debugger
(/even if only for
>>       Eclipse/)
>
> I would also like to add:
>      * SOAP and XML-RPC support on SOLO deployment.
>      * An in-depth tutorial on how to extend the
OpenLaszlo compiler.
>
>>
>> My wish list for Open Laszlo 5.0:
>>
>>     * E4X support
>>     * ECMAScript 4 support
>>     * Something like GWT of Echo2 but with Laszlo
as the underlying
>>       infrastructure. (/Java only coding/)
>>
>
> OpenLaszlo 6.0
>      * Non-Java based Presentation Server.
>      * APIs for porting the Presentation Server to
other (lightweight)
> platforms.
>
>
>
> Rock on,
>
>
> [ simon.cpu ]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> And /usr/games/fortune futurama says:
>
> (talking to the Beastie Boys)
> Fry: Wow. I love you guys. Back in the 20th century, I
had all five of
>   your albums.
> Ad-Rock: That was a thousand years ago. Now we got
seven.
> Fry: Cool. Can I borrow the new ones. And a couple of
blank tapes?
>


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