Re: Setting the default language (spell check)

Christian Lohmaier wrote:

>> We don't call something broken that never was
correct.
> 
> I surely do. If you don't call something a bug when it
works /as
> designed/, then I'm with you, but when you say: It
doesn't work, neved
> did, so thus cannot be a bug, then we have different
points of view.

I never said that. But anyway, let's not continue this
fruitless
discussion. We seem to agree that the missing support for
the language
property is a bug.

> The point was: Is there something like a document
langauge. I said yes,
> you say no.

Yes, my statement was misleading. My understanding was that
the OP was
looking for a document language he could set via API - but
there is no
such thing in OOo. But I think there should be one.

You seem to have a look from the file format side - it looks
as there
could be something (a property in the metadata), but OOo
ignores it.

I'm not sure if *this* is a bug because it seems that ODF
has a
redundancy here and redundancies always hold the risk of
contradictions.
Having two conflicting settings (for the language in the
metadata and in
the default style) can't be handled properly. So it seems to
be OK that
OOo ignores one of these settings (the metadata) if the
other one is set.

What we are missing is a defition how handling contradicory
values at
runtime, e.g. should setting the language in the metadata
(once it is
working) automatically change the value in the default
style? I think it
should. That would be the easiest way to resolve possible
conflicts.

> If you hard-code the language inside the
paragraph-style with name
> "Default", you're doing something else than
changing the document
> language (as done via Toolsptions) -
that's the point.
You seemed to fall into the trap again. I didn't write that
there is
anything hard-code in the style named "Default".


So let my try to summarize:

If you create a new document in OOo it has some default
preset
attributes. These are collected in the so called default
styles in ODF.
One of them is the default paragraph style, it contains a
language
attribute that is used for every text content in the
document that does
not have an own language attribute set. Every attribute that
is not set
in a style is inherited from this default style.

These default styles must not be confused with the styles
names
"Default". I noticed this possible confusion too
late as I used a german
version where these styles are named "Standard"
and so they can't be
confused with the default styles. I hope it's clear now.


> And even when both ways don't matter to the
spell-checker itself, it
> is still two different things.
Sorry, I don't understand. The language in the default style
*does*
matter to the spell checker. And Tools-Options-Language
*does* set the
language attribute in the default style (not in the style
"Default").

So the problem of the OP that he wanted to set the language
of the
document can be answered only by: yes, you can do it via
Tools-Options-Language but there is no API to do it. That's
what I
wanted to express written in my first reply. And that's how
it is.

'nuff said, IMHO.

Ciao,
Mathias

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