PC-BSD download page

Charles A. Landemaine wrote:
> Thank you Martin. I visited the QA page. Will some one
test our build
> before uploading it to your download page? At PC-BSD we
already have a
> testing process prior to releasing PBIs on our software
web site.
I think it's ok if your group also takes responsibility for
doing QA,
getting more help from the OOo QA project may not be very
likely because
PC-BSD is not commonly used there. For the initial QA
approval it might
be useful to let the automated tests successful run.
> Here's my OO.o ID: calande. What's the next step now
for PC-BSD's
> build to be listed in the download page next to Windows
and OSX
> builds?
where are the PBIs available now ? How much stuff is it ?
> Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
> Thanks,
> 
> Charles.
Martin

> 
> 
> On 10/31/06, Martin Hollmichel
<Martin.Hollmichelsun.com> wrote:
>> Charles A. Landemaine wrote:
>> > Dear Martin,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your reply. PC-BSD builds are
build from FreeBSD sources
>> > with specific options. They are like setup.exe
files on Windows: You
>> > double-click, follow the instructions and your
application is
>> > installed by the installation wizard.
>> > If you want to know how we build these .pbi
files, please have a look
>> > at the tutorial I wrote a while back:
>> > http://faqs.pcbs
d.org/19_303_en.html
>> I would like to see that stuff also available on
OpenOffice.org so that
>> anyone is able to recreate this from scratch with
clear conditions
>> (OpenOffice.org license)
>> > I'm responsible for the OpenOffice.org port of
PC-BSD, and the sources
>> > are not modified as you can see on the
tutorial, but there is a
>> > specific procedure to achieve a quality
executable file. I think the
>> > best way would be to host the file together
with other operating
>> > systems, be it on your FTP servers and listed
on this page:
>> > http:
//download.openoffice.org/2.0.4/index.html
>> > Would you like the file every time there is a
release, of could you
>> > grant me an FTP access to upload the file onto
a restricted place?
>> We hve some process to approve build for specific
locales on the various
>> platforms, please have a look at
>> http://
qa.openoffice.org/localized/index.html and
>> http://www.qatrac
k.org/204/view.php . I'm cc'ing Andre Schnabel, the QA
>> project lead, he can point you to more informative
places.
>> > Looking forward to hearing from you soon,
>> I would be glad if we'd be able to continue our
information exchange on
>> devporting.openoffice.org and devqa.openoffice.org, so that
we get
>> larger attention for your port.
>>
>> What's your OpenOFfice.org account, I would like to
see that you're able
>> to maintain the PC-BSD specific webpages by
yourself.
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> > Charles.
>> Martin
>>
> 
> 

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Martin Hollmichel wrote:
> Charles A. Landemaine wrote:
>> Thank you Martin. I visited the QA page. Will some
one test our build
>> before uploading it to your download page? At
PC-BSD we already have a
>> testing process prior to releasing PBIs on our
software web site.
> I think it's ok if your group also takes responsibility
for doing QA,
> getting more help from the OOo QA project may not be
very likely because
> PC-BSD is not commonly used there. For the initial QA
approval it might
> be useful to let the automated tests successful run.
>> Here's my OO.o ID: calande. What's the next step
now for PC-BSD's
>> build to be listed in the download page next to
Windows and OSX
>> builds?
> where are the PBIs available now ? How much stuff is it
?
>> Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
>> Thanks,
>>


Hi Martin and Charles,

I currently do QA FR/EN testing with Maho's builds on my
PC-BSD 1.2 box 
using the TCM system. I haven't tested any of the PBIs, one
of the 
reasons being that native language stuff seems to take ages
to be 
prepared, and the other being that Maho doesn't have the
time to fix the 
all of the problems since he is essentially on his own
(unless I'm very 
much mistaken).

My concern with putting PBIs on the OOo download page is
that people 
will inevitably inundate Maho with bug issues that he's not
in a 
position to correct, and possibly with issues linked to the
PBIs. If 
that were to happen, I feel it would be necessary to
indicate to users 
that the OpenOffice.org web site is not the first place
users should 
turn to for help, since many of the severe problems (by
severe, I mean 
crashes) actually present in the FreeBSD build are specific
to that build.


As a general remark, the Base module is very unstable and
causes OOo to 
crash frequently (and yes I have opened issues for these and
Maho is 
aware of them), undoubtedly because of the Java integration
(and I have 
compiled my own JDK 1.5), but fixing them takes time which
Maho doesn't 
have (he does after all do the builds for Mac PPC/Intel and
FreeBSD).

I'm all for improved visibility of the PC-BSD project, but
it shouldn't 
mislead users into thinking that it can solve all their
business needs, 
since at the present time OOo FreeBSD isn't IMHO ready for
prime time.

Just my 2 cents


Alex

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From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgoodfree.fr>
Subject: Re: [qa-dev] Re: PC-BSD download page
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:47:02 +0100

> I currently do QA FR/EN testing with Maho's builds on
my PC-BSD 1.2 box 
??
I've never provided builds for PC-BSD. and builds are always
provided
by Jack L. I'm doing commit in FreeBSD ports cvs repo
only...

-- NAKATA, Maho (mahoFreeBSD.org)


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From: Alex Thurgood <alex.thurgoodfree.fr>
Subject: Re: [qa-dev] Re: PC-BSD download page
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:47:02 +0100

> As a general remark, the Base module is very unstable
and causes OOo to 
> crash frequently (and yes I have opened issues for
these and Maho is 
> aware of them), undoubtedly because of the Java
integration (and I have 
> compiled my own JDK 1.5), but fixing them takes time
which Maho doesn't 
> have (he does after all do the builds for Mac PPC/Intel
and FreeBSD).

Right, sorry, I don't have much time to invesitigate this...

You might not know, but sooooo many small stuffs for
FreeBSD.
I worked very hard to provide 6.2-RELEASE+OOo 2.0.4 etc. It
just mean,
OOo 2.0.4 will be included with a part of official FreeBSD
6.2-RELEASE package. Time for Mac PPC/Intel is just
marginal...

Hope someone can help me a bit...
-- NAKATA, Maho (mahoFreeBSD.org)

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