Re: next IRC Meeting - QA on February 22nd - REMINDER

From: Rafaella Braconi <Rafaella.BraconiSun.COM>
Subject: [qa-dev] next IRC Meeting - QA on February 22nd -
REMINDER
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:57:53 +0100

> Dear All,
> 
> this is a friendly reminder that tomorrow there will be
another QA 
> meeting on IRC.
> 
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
> 
> Asrail will facilitate the meeting this time (thanks!)
> On the agenda we have the review of the Action Items fo
far.... so if 
> there is anyone who would like to suggest a topic for
our meeting 
> tomorrow, please don't hesitate to do so.

Log is here:
ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/misc/%23oo
onlc-2007-02-22-22h13.log

Next meeting will be:
March 8th - 12:00 UTC
#qa.openoffice.org
feenode.net

Rafaella: we think we should moved to #qa.openoffice.org
from #ooonlc
because we are talking about QA matter. 

thanks,
-- NAKATA, Maho (mahoFreeBSD.org)

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Hi,

Thanks for the log.
Here is my comments regarding 2 topics.

(1). Who is in charge to create Build in TCM
- for "TCM acceptance testing" which targets RC
builds
I agree QA lead (Maho) will do this. And Maho has already
got
'build' account info from Andre, right?

- for "TCM l10n testing" which targets l10n CWS
(like localisationXX)
Currently I am in charge of this, although this is just
historically reason.

(2). How to define testing scenario language dependent.
I believe there are two possibilities.
- Make <lang>_<scenario name> (like fr_sanity or
es_writer) scenario
- Make language dependent test case which has the
declaration
   such as <This is CJK only> or <This is Germany
only> in Description.
   And put such case into scenario. Not relevant language
testing
   will just "skip" such cases. This is already
done in current scenario.
I believe handling language dependent scenario in target
language case
translation is not so good, because other language team can
not know
what other groups are doing. I think case translation should
be just
a translation.

I may be misunderstanding for 2nd topic, so please correct
me in that case.

Thanks,
Naoyuki

Maho NAKATA wrote:
> From: Rafaella Braconi <Rafaella.BraconiSun.COM>
> Subject: [qa-dev] next IRC Meeting - QA on February
22nd - REMINDER
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:57:53 +0100
> 
>> Dear All,
>>
>> this is a friendly reminder that tomorrow there
will be another QA 
>> meeting on IRC.
>>
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings
>>
>> Asrail will facilitate the meeting this time
(thanks!)
>> On the agenda we have the review of the Action
Items fo far.... so if 
>> there is anyone who would like to suggest a topic
for our meeting 
>> tomorrow, please don't hesitate to do so.
> 
> Log is here:
>
ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/misc/%23oo
onlc-2007-02-22-22h13.log
> 
> Next meeting will be:
> March 8th - 12:00 UTC
> #qa.openoffice.org
> feenode.net
> 
> Rafaella: we think we should moved to
#qa.openoffice.org from #ooonlc
> because we are talking about QA matter. 
> 
> thanks,
> -- NAKATA, Maho (mahoFreeBSD.org)
> 
>
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Many thanks for Andre!

From: Andre Schnabel <Andre.Schnabelgmx.net>
Subject: Re: [qa-dev] next IRC Meeting - QA on February 22nd
- REMINDER
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:37:38 +0100

> correct. Maho and Caio know the password. I've shown
Caio the steps to 
> set up a new version right after the IRC meeting.

Ah, so I should be `in charge' of this. Caio, could you
please show us?
Posting as e-mail is much better...  

> > - for "TCM l10n testing" which targets
l10n CWS (like localisationXX)
> > Currently I am in charge of this, although this is
just
> > historically reason.
> 
> I think it would be good, If this task is done by l10n
engineers. You 
> know best, when the CWSes for testing are ready.

I think so too. In manual test, testers may find more issues
esp.
l10n issues esp. Japanese issues ;) which automated test
cannot find.

> > (2). How to define testing scenario language
dependent.
> > I believe there are two possibilities.
> > - Make <lang>_<scenario name> (like
fr_sanity or es_writer) scenario
> > - Make language dependent test case which has the
declaration
> >   such as <This is CJK only> or <This is
Germany only> in Description.
> >   And put such case into scenario. Not relevant
language testing
> >   will just "skip" such cases. This is
already done in current scenario.
> > I believe handling language dependent scenario in
target language case
> > translation is not so good, because other language
team can not know
> > what other groups are doing. I think case
translation should be just
> > a translation.
> >
> > I may be misunderstanding for 2nd topic, so please
correct me in that 
> > case.
> 
> I've been thinking of the Language / Platform selection
when you create 
> a new test case. But I only know, that you can set this
attributes. I 
> don't know what the effects will be.
> But a comment in the description should work as well -
testers just need 
> to know that they can skip such test cases.

+1 Andre's suggestion.

-- NAKATA, Maho (mahoFreeBSD.org)

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