TCM l10n testing for 2.3 (Aug 3rd <-> Aug 16th)

Hi NL-QA team,

The localisation21 CWS which has the latest l10n for 2.3
will be
available at Aug 2nd.
So please plan TCM l10n testing from Aug 3rd to Aug 16th.

Although this testing period is 2 weeks, if you find
serious
l10n isseus in the first week (by Aug 9th), there will be
higher
possibility for fixing them for 2.3 release.

When localisation21 binaries will be ready, the
announcement
will happen here.

Thanks,
Naoyuki

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Hi Naoyuki, QA team, MacOSX porting team and Pavel Janik!

*if possible* I'd like to provide cws build for MacOSX
AQUA/X11 PPC/TIGER
as usual for TCM 10n testing for 2.3 for MacOSX users.
Unfortunately, I'll be away for summer vacation.
and whole build takes two or three days...

Anyway, if the build has been stated,
http:
//eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?logon=true&am
p;Id=5371&Path=SRC680%2Flocalisation21
please let me know.
But, this cws is just planned. the milestone is not
determined as well.
So I cannot start build for MacOSX users 

Hope this will be based on SRC680_m222 or later 
(cws unomacli64 is integrated otherwise OOo doesn't run on
PPC machines).
Currently we have serious
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=79308

build problem so I cannot automated.

Pavel, if you know something more, please let me know.

From: Naoyuki Ishimura <Naoyuki.IshimuraSun.COM>
Subject: [qa-dev] TCM l10n testing for 2.3 (Aug 3rd
<-> Aug 16th)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:31:59 +0900

> Hi NL-QA team,
> 
> The localisation21 CWS which has the latest l10n for
2.3 will be
> available at Aug 2nd.
> So please plan TCM l10n testing from Aug 3rd to Aug
16th.
> 
> Although this testing period is 2 weeks, if you find
serious
> l10n isseus in the first week (by Aug 9th), there will
be higher
> possibility for fixing them for 2.3 release.
> 
> When localisation21 binaries will be ready, the
announcement
> will happen here.

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On 26 juil. 07, at 15:14, Maho NAKATA wrote:
> Anyway, if the build has been stated,
> 
http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS? 
>
logon=true&Id=5371&Path=SRC680%2Flocalisation21
> please let me know.
> But, this cws is just planned. the milestone is not
determined as  
> well.
> So I cannot start build for MacOSX users 

Would it be possible that Eric provides the build with the
unfinished  
OSX-Aqua ? Since the QA only relates to l10n I suppose
working from  
OSX-X11 or OSX-Aqua would not make a difference ?


Jean-Christophe Helary

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Hi Naoyuki,

Naoyuki Ishimura wrote:
> Hi NL-QA team,
> 
> The localisation21 CWS which has the latest l10n for
2.3 will be
> available at Aug 2nd.
> So please plan TCM l10n testing from Aug 3rd to Aug
16th.

May be we should add new test cases for the new
functionalities like
database report, charts, ... ?

Will we work on this in the mean time, or do you have test
cases at hand
? I can help if needed, just tell me.

Kind regards
Sophie

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Hi Sophie,

I do not have any test cases for new functionalities for
now.
If you can help to make them, it's really great!

Thanks,
Naoyuki

sophie wrote:
> Hi Naoyuki,
> 
> Naoyuki Ishimura wrote:
>> Hi NL-QA team,
>>
>> The localisation21 CWS which has the latest l10n
for 2.3 will be
>> available at Aug 2nd.
>> So please plan TCM l10n testing from Aug 3rd to Aug
16th.
> 
> May be we should add new test cases for the new
functionalities like
> database report, charts, ... ?
> 
> Will we work on this in the mean time, or do you have
test cases at hand
> ? I can help if needed, just tell me.
> 
> Kind regards
> Sophie
> 
>
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Hi Naoyuki,

Naoyuki Ishimura wrote:
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> I do not have any test cases for new functionalities
for now.
> If you can help to make them, it's really great!

I'll be able to work on it tomorrow afternoon.
Would people here help me in providing a list of the tests
they think
are needed or relevant for l10n QA ?

I'm proposing :
- Database reports
- Extensions (online)
- Online update
- Smart tags
...

Thanks 
Kind regards - Sophie

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Hi Sophie,

what test cases do you mean?

The general functionality of new features are tested before
integration 
of these features. You will find test case specifications or
links to
automated test cases in the feature list for OOo2.3 [1]. So
it isn't
needed to write new test cases.

Currently the test cases in TCM are only for areas, where
translated
strings change the functionality or where native speakers
have to check
if the defaults for their languages are correct (e.g. date
format).
Testing of general functionality isn't and shouldn't be part
of TCM.
Here I think we need a new tooling, or we have to link
complex test
cases in TCM.

So what do you mean with new test cases? Testing general
functionality
or L10N related issues for the new feature?

Thorsten


sophie wrote:
> Hi Naoyuki,
> 
> Naoyuki Ishimura wrote:
>> Hi Sophie,
>>
>> I do not have any test cases for new
functionalities for now.
>> If you can help to make them, it's really great!
> 
> I'll be able to work on it tomorrow afternoon.
> Would people here help me in providing a list of the
tests they think
> are needed or relevant for l10n QA ?
> 
> I'm proposing :
> - Database reports
> - Extensions (online)
> - Online update
> - Smart tags
> ...
> 
> Thanks 
> Kind regards - Sophie
> 
>
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sorry I missed the link :
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Feat
ure_Freeze_Testing_2.3

Thorsten


Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> what test cases do you mean?
> 
> The general functionality of new features are tested
before integration 
> of these features. You will find test case
specifications or links to
> automated test cases in the feature list for OOo2.3
[1]. So it isn't
> needed to write new test cases.
> 
> Currently the test cases in TCM are only for areas,
where translated
> strings change the functionality or where native
speakers have to check
> if the defaults for their languages are correct (e.g.
date format).
> Testing of general functionality isn't and shouldn't be
part of TCM.
> Here I think we need a new tooling, or we have to link
complex test
> cases in TCM.
> 
> So what do you mean with new test cases? Testing
general functionality
> or L10N related issues for the new feature?
> 
> Thorsten
> 
> 
> sophie wrote:
>> Hi Naoyuki,
>>
>> Naoyuki Ishimura wrote:
>>> Hi Sophie,
>>>
>>> I do not have any test cases for new
functionalities for now.
>>> If you can help to make them, it's really
great!
>>
>> I'll be able to work on it tomorrow afternoon.
>> Would people here help me in providing a list of
the tests they think
>> are needed or relevant for l10n QA ?
>>
>> I'm proposing :
>> - Database reports
>> - Extensions (online)
>> - Online update
>> - Smart tags
>> ...
>>
>> Thanks 
>> Kind regards - Sophie
>>
>>
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Hi Jean-Christophe,

Jean-Christophe Helary a écrit :

> Would it be possible that Eric provides the build with
the unfinished  
> OSX-Aqua ?

Sorry, I'll be on holidays for two weeks starting saturday,
and this 
will be difficult  

  Since the QA only relates to l10n I suppose working from
> OSX-X11 or OSX-Aqua would not make a difference ?

For unofficial builds, ok, no problem to provide you a
build, but for QA 
it is not possible.


Regards,
Eric

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Hi Thorsten,


Thorsten Ziehm wrote:
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> what test cases do you mean?

Hum, not sure you read this thread ;) I mean TCM L10n like
in the subject.
> 
> The general functionality of new features are tested
before integration
> of these features. You will find test case
specifications or links to
> automated test cases in the feature list for OOo2.3
[1]. So it isn't
> needed to write new test cases.

Only to translate them if you want some feed back for non
English
speaking communities. Ans some test case are not present in
your list,
may be they are not needed ?
> 
> Currently the test cases in TCM are only for areas,
where translated
> strings change the functionality or where native
speakers have to check
> if the defaults for their languages are correct (e.g.
date format).

Yes, and from what I know, their is 5287 new words in the
GUI. My
question was: are the corresponding tests present in the TCM
? otherwise
why should we do TCM test case ?

> Testing of general functionality isn't and shouldn't be
part of TCM.
> Here I think we need a new tooling, or we have to link
complex test
> cases in TCM.

Ha, I'm quite surprised as we are doing those tests for
several releases
now.
What do you mean by new tooling ? If I want my team to test
the FR
release, I need to upload the manual tests on TCM (like the
one Validity
described following your link for example) to be able to
track the
results on the plateform our group is testing on. Do you
mean it is
useless and won't bring anything ?
> 
> So what do you mean with new test cases? Testing
general functionality
> or L10N related issues for the new feature?

I mean l10n QA, but I'm now puzzled by the fact that new
functionnalities shouldn't go on TCM. And I find it sometime
very
difficult to separate the l10n part to the functionnality
part in a bug.

Kind regards
Sophie

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