default db should be empty

 From Dan Chudnov (library hacker):

<http://onebiglibrary.net/story/open-office-rant-of
-the-day>

> Does anybody know why OpenOffice ships with a
"bibliography database" 
> that's *already* filled out with a bunch of records? Do
they assume we 
> all want to write papers about OpenOffice?
>
> And why, please tell me, do I have to delete each
record individually, 
> no matter what UI/key combination I try?
>
> This doesn't make any sense. Am I missing something?

Can we get these little details changed in an interim
release (say 
2.0.5?) before we do something more significant?

Bruce

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Hi,

Bruce D'Arcus schrieb:
> From Dan Chudnov (library hacker):
>
> <http://onebiglibrary.net/story/open-office-rant-of
-the-day>
>
>> Does anybody know why OpenOffice ships with a
"bibliography database" 
>> that's *already* filled out with a bunch of
records? Do they assume 
>> we all want to write papers about OpenOffice?
>>
>> And why, please tell me, do I have to delete each
record 
>> individually, no matter what UI/key combination I
try?
>>
>> This doesn't make any sense. Am I missing
something?
>
> Can we get these little details changed in an interim
release (say 
> 2.0.5?) before we do something more significant?
This could be done even the current version:
- open writer
- press F4
- select bibliography and browse to tables
- select table biblio
- mark all records in the table
- presse delete
- anser the question box with yes

-> be happy

There is really no need to rand a prefilled database. You
could use this 
databes to by some really usefull books about OOo that would
have 
explained how to delete those records.

André

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On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andre Schnabel wrote:

> There is really no need to rand a prefilled database.
You could use 
> this databes to by some really usefull books about OOo
that would have 
> explained how to delete those records.

Thanks for the explanation, but I hope you're joking here.
There's no 
good reason why this db is prefilled. It comes across like
beta 
software where someone forget to remove the test data.

Bruce

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Hi,

Bruce D'Arcus schrieb:
>
> On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Andre Schnabel wrote:
>
>> There is really no need to rand a prefilled
database. You could use 
>> this databes to by some really usefull books about
OOo that would 
>> have explained how to delete those records.
>
> Thanks for the explanation, but I hope you're joking
here. There's no 
> good reason why this db is prefilled. It comes across
like beta 
> software where someone forget to remove the test data.
No, I'm not joking, as I know users who find this data
helpfull and have 
even requested an update of the data.

But if it is really disturbing, we have some protocols for
changing a 
feature in OOo .. this usually start by reporting an issue.
(So that the 
change is trackable)

André

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On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Andre Schnabel wrote:

>> Thanks for the explanation, but I hope you're
joking here. There's no 
>> good reason why this db is prefilled. It comes
across like beta 
>> software where someone forget to remove the test
data.
> No, I'm not joking, as I know users who find this data
helpfull and 
> have even requested an update of the data.

I have never come across any database application that
prefills 
content, unless perhaps it's generic content like country
codes or 
whatever in a relational db (not relevant here, because a
flat db).

Moreover, I don't recall ever meeting anyone who actually
uses the 
existing bibliographic support. So I'm not sure what users
are 
requesting it be updated. I'm sure you won't hear such a
request on our 
mailing lists.

> But if it is really disturbing, we have some protocols
for changing a 
> feature in OOo .. this usually start by reporting an
issue. (So that 
> the change is trackable)

OK.

Bruce

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