Dear Writer Developers!

Dear Writer Developers!
 
I would like to ask you to add higher priority to this
issue:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61007

This is the one of our issue why we have to build own
Hungarian
OpenOffice.org builds - FSF.hu builds. Can you help us to
correct this
issue? It is very important issue to us.
 
Are there any declaration in ODF than can store the
information how
caption is formatted? I am thuinking about UI modification
where the
user can select the format:
 Placement
 - numbers first
 - text first
 
Can this be the right way or it simple must be hardcoded
into OOo? Also
it might have i18n aspects, so we might store this flag in
that
project... Also we might store information about formatting
rules of
caption (point after number or just space, etc)
Other patches, arent so critical, but a review might comes
well. You
can check them here:
http://hu.openoffice.org/source/browse/hu/src/2.2.1/
Patches/ 
 

Best regards,
KAMI

Here is the title what I missed before ;o)

>>> Dátum: H, szept. 10, 2007, idő: 11:14 de., a(z)
<46E5271F.DE42.0033.0navigatorrt.hu>
üzenetben, "Kálmán Szalai" <Kalman.Szalainavigatorrt.hu> írta:
Dear Writer Developers!

I would like to ask you to add higher priority to this
issue:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61007

This is the one of our issue why we have to build own
Hungarian
OpenOffice.org builds - FSF.hu builds. Can you help us to
correct this
issue? It is very important issue to us.

Are there any declaration in ODF than can store the
information how
caption is formatted? I am thuinking about UI modification
where the
user can select the format:
Placement
- numbers first
- text first

Can this be the right way or it simple must be hardcoded
into OOo? Also
it might have i18n aspects, so we might store this flag in
that
project... Also we might store information about formatting
rules of
caption (point after number or just space, etc)
Other patches, arent so critical, but a review might comes
well. You
can check them here:
http://hu.openoffice.org/source/browse/hu/src/2.2.1/
Patches/ 


Best regards,
KAMI

Kálmán Szalai wrote:
Hi,
> Here is the title what I missed before ;o)
> 
>>>> Dátum: H, szept. 10, 2007, idő: 11:14 de.,
a(z) <46E5271F.DE42.0033.0navigatorrt.hu>
üzenetben, "Kálmán Szalai" <Kalman.Szalainavigatorrt.hu> írta:
> Dear Writer Developers!
> 
> I would like to ask you to add higher priority to this
issue:
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61007

> This is the one of our issue why we have to build own
Hungarian
> OpenOffice.org builds - FSF.hu builds. Can you help us
to correct this
> issue? It is very important issue to us.
> 
> Are there any declaration in ODF than can store the
information how
> caption is formatted? 
The way captions are inserted is not part of the document
format. The 
document contains the resulting caption text only.
>I am thuinking about UI modification where the
> user can select the format:
> Placement
> - numbers first
> - text first
That seems to be the easiest way.
> 
> Can this be the right way or it simple must be
hardcoded into OOo? 
As you already know (as your patch does it that way) the
order of the 
caption elements is hard coded. At the moment I don't know
which 
requirements other languages might have. But if the order of
text/number 
needs to be changed we should add a CheckBox that allows
that.
The only problem might be that there's not much space in the
dialog page 
in tools/Options/..Writer/AutoCaption.

 > Also
> it might have i18n aspects, so we might store this flag
in that
> project... Also we might store information about
formatting rules of
> caption (point after number or just space, etc)
All that is configurable right now. I think we don't need it
in i18n as 
long as the caption is not automatically created from a
field command 
within the document (like date and time fields).

Regards,
Oliver

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Hello!

>>> Dátum: H, szept. 10, 2007, idő: 12:35 du., a(z)
<46E51E0A.1080302sun.com> üzenetben, Oliver Specht - Sun
Germany -Hamburg <Oliver.SpechtSun.COM> írta:
Kálmán Szalai wrote:
Hi,
> Here is the title what I missed before ;o)
> 
>>>> Dátum: H, szept. 10, 2007, idő: 11:14 de.,
a(z) <46E5271F.DE42.0033.0navigatorrt.hu>
üzenetben, "Kálmán Szalai" <Kalman.Szalainavigatorrt.hu> írta:
> Dear Writer Developers!
> 
> I would like to ask you to add higher priority to this
issue:
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61007

> This is the one of our issue why we have to build own
Hungarian
> OpenOffice.org builds - FSF.hu builds. Can you help us
to correct this
> issue? It is very important issue to us.
> 
> Are there any declaration in ODF than can store the
information how
> caption is formatted? 
The way captions are inserted is not part of the document
format. The 
document contains the resulting caption text only.
>I am thuinking about UI modification where the
> user can select the format:
> Placement
> - numbers first
> - text first
That seems to be the easiest way.
> 
> Can this be the right way or it simple must be
hardcoded into OOo? 
As you already know (as your patch does it that way) the
order of the 
caption elements is hard coded. At the moment I don't know
which 
requirements other languages might have. But if the order of
text/number 
needs to be changed we should add a CheckBox that allows
that.
 
 
Yes, that is what we really need...
 

The only problem might be that there's not much space in the
dialog page 
in tools/Options/..Writer/AutoCaption.
 
 
I see. We might ask MMP how can we resolve this problem.

> Also
> it might have i18n aspects, so we might store this flag
in that
> project... Also we might store information about
formatting rules of
> caption (point after number or just space, etc)
All that is configurable right now. I think we don't need it
in i18n as 
long as the caption is not automatically created from a
field command 
within the document (like date and time fields).
 
 
 
But these setting might be diferent language by language.

Regards,
Oliver

 
Thanks,
KAMI

Kálmán Szalai wrote:
> Hello!

>  
>  
> But these setting might be diferent language by
language.
That's not a problem if we default the 'order' CheckBox
appropriately 
for the given UI locale. The user can change the setting if
necessary 
anyway.

Regards,
Oliver

p.s. Your mail client doesn't support quoting or is it just
misconfigured?


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Oliver Specht - Sun Germany -Hamburg írta:
> Kálmán Szalai wrote:
>> Hello!
>
>>  
>>  
>> But these setting might be diferent language by
language.
> That's not a problem if we default the 'order' CheckBox
appropriately 
> for the given UI locale. The user can change the
setting if necessary 
> anyway.
It seems to OK to me. There are any chance to implement it
to 2.4?
>
> Regards,
> Oliver
>
> p.s. Your mail client doesn't support quoting or is it
just 
> misconfigured?

Thanks,
KAMI

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KamiHír wrote:
> Oliver Specht - Sun Germany -Hamburg írta:
>> Kálmán Szalai wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>
>>>  
>>>  
>>> But these setting might be diferent language by
language.
>> That's not a problem if we default the 'order'
CheckBox appropriately 
>> for the given UI locale. The user can change the
setting if necessary 
>> anyway.
> It seems to OK to me. There are any chance to implement
it to 2.4?
Certainly there are - what should stop us?

Regards,
Oliver

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Oliver Specht - Sun Germany -Hamburg írta:
> KamiHír wrote:
>> It seems to OK to me. There are any chance to
implement it to 2.4?
> Certainly there are - what should stop us?

Just one thing: I am not a programmer so I can't provide the
perfect 
solution... :o(
>
> Regards,
> Oliver

KAMI

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KAMI wrote:
> Oliver Specht - Sun Germany -Hamburg írta:
>> KamiHír wrote:
>>> It seems to OK to me. There are any chance to
implement it to 2.4?
>> Certainly there are - what should stop us?
> 
> Just one thing: I am not a programmer so I can't
provide the perfect 
> solution... :o(
You don't need to. But it would be nice if you could prepare
a spec for 
the two dialogs (Options/.../Auto Caption and
Insert/Caption).

You will certainly also get support from the user experience
team on the 
discussux.openoffice.org mailing list.

Regards,
Oliver


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Kálmán Szalai wrote:
> Hello!
>  
> I created the draft of specification. Can you help me
to make it complete?
>  
> (Attached)
>  
Hi,
we should finalize this spec in the week after the
OOo-conference. 
Putting the "order of numer<>label" into the
option dialog seems to be a 
good solution.

Regards,
Oliver

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