When Aqua port is complete, will X11 version be abandoned?

While I'm certainly looking forward to a real Mac-native
version of  
OpenOffice -- and Sun's increased involvement certainly is
good news  
-- I'm wondering if the X11 version for Mac will be
abandoned once  
the Aqua version is complete?

I ask because the X11 version actually provides some
advantages for  
some Mac users -- specifically those who work with complex
Asian  
scripts such as Devanagari and Tibetan (this may be true of
others as  
well) for which the Macintosh and Windows/Linux
implementations are  
different enough that cross-platform sharing of
Unicode-based  
documents is impossible.

Since OpenOffice in X11 uses Linux/Windows-style OpenType
fonts, it's  
possible to create documents in that environment that can be
shared  
with Linux/Windows users -- where documents created in
regular Mac OS  
X apps (such as Pages, or NeoOffice, or the forthcoming Aqua
 
OpenOffice), which must use Apple AAT-compatible fonts,
cannot be so  
shared.

Thus, until real cross-platform implementations appear for
such  
scripts (which doesn't look like anytime soon,
unfortunately),  
OpenOffice in X11 can be a real help for such users, so I
wonder if  
it will continue to be updated along with the other
versions. I'm  
guessing it's not much different from the Linux version?

Andrew Main
Santa Fe, N.M., U.S.A.

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Le 07-05-18 à 19:51, Andrew Main a écrit :

> While I'm certainly looking forward to a real
Mac-native version of  
> OpenOffice -- and Sun's increased involvement certainly
is good  
> news -- I'm wondering if the X11 version for Mac will
be abandoned  
> once the Aqua version is complete?
>
> I ask because the X11 version actually provides some
advantages for  
> some Mac users -- specifically those who work with
complex Asian  
> scripts such as Devanagari and Tibetan (this may be
true of others  
> as well) for which the Macintosh and Windows/Linux
implementations  
> are different enough that cross-platform sharing of
Unicode-based  
> documents is impossible.

An another big big advantage of the X11 version : you can
run OOo as  
a service without having to run a Window Server session.  We
use OOo  
for doing mailing stuff from a Java (WebObjects)
applications and it  
works quite well without having to log a user.
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On 21 May 2007, at 20:57, Pascal Robert wrote:

>
> Le 07-05-18 à 19:51, Andrew Main a écrit :
>
>> While I'm certainly looking forward to a real
Mac-native version  
>> of OpenOffice -- and Sun's increased involvement
certainly is good  
>> news -- I'm wondering if the X11 version for Mac
will be abandoned  
>> once the Aqua version is complete?
>>
>> I ask because the X11 version actually provides
some advantages  
>> for some Mac users -- specifically those who work
with complex  
>> Asian scripts such as Devanagari and Tibetan (this
may be true of  
>> others as well) for which the Macintosh and
Windows/Linux  
>> implementations are different enough that
cross-platform sharing  
>> of Unicode-based documents is impossible.
>
> An another big big advantage of the X11 version : you
can run OOo  
> as a service without having to run a Window Server
session.  We use  
> OOo for doing mailing stuff from a Java (WebObjects)
applications  
> and it works quite well without having to log a user.

If ooo is running in headless mode, it shouldn't need a
window  
server. Surely there will be some way of doing that. I'm not
saying  
it should be a top priority.

Shaun




		
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On May 18, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Andrew Main wrote:

> While I'm certainly looking forward to a real
Mac-native version of  
> OpenOffice -- and Sun's increased involvement certainly
is good  
> news -- I'm wondering if the X11 version for Mac will
be abandoned  
> once the Aqua version is complete?

Although it's not as easy of a solution as the OOo provided
binary,  
fink (http://finkproject.org/)
provides builds of openoffice in  
several languages.  You would have to use fink to compile it
on each  
computer you're using (though sometimes fink provides binary
builds  
of popular pacakges), but fink is fairly easy to use.  I
don't  
believe they provide an option to use the Apple fonts, so it
should  
work with those scripts.  It'll basically build OOo as it
would be on  
a Unix/Linux computer.

~Jayson


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From: Andrew Main <handymacearthlink.net>
Subject: [mac] When Aqua port is complete, will X11 version
be abandoned?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:51:51 -0600

> -- I'm wondering if the X11 version for Mac will be
abandoned once  
> the Aqua version is complete?

Okay, I'll provide X11 version as far as possible.
-- Nakata Maho (mahoFreeBSD.org)

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