Proposal: Top 5 of issues before Alpha

Hi,

As proposed during IRC meetings (discussed several times),
we will 
provide an alpha version of Aqua OpenOffice.org on Mac OS X,
during 
OOoCon 2007.

This time, the 5 most important issues to be fixed will
decide for alpha 
version. I have proposed the issue list below, but if more
important are 
existing, please inform us.

Relevant issues are :

1) Implement Drag&Drop for OOo on Mac OS X ( 
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=79620
)
2) fix blackframe at launch, or for every new frame.
Backport from 
aquavcl03, or maybe already in aquavcl02, unsure ... ) ( 
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75981
)
3) listboxes not drawn correctly ( 
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80704
)
4) combo boxes not drawn correctly ( 
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80701
)
5) Scrollbar - vcl control areas not correctly superposed
with aqua 
areas on scrollbar
( http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=77549
)

*aquavclcarbonfixes* cws has been created in that purpose,
and the 
issues will be added.

Once fixed, we will provide a Carbon version matching with
the milestone 
corresponding to the integration.
And if we are in a hurry, we will simply provide the current
milestone 
matching with OOoCon2007 period.

Constructive comments and opinions are welcome,
Eric Bachard

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ON 16/08/2007, AT 12:45 AM, ERIC.BACHARD WROTE:

> ONCE FIXED, WE WILL PROVIDE A CARBON VERSION MATCHING
WITH THE  
> MILESTONE CORRESPONDING TO THE INTEGRATION.
> AND IF WE ARE IN A HURRY, WE WILL SIMPLY PROVIDE THE
CURRENT  
> MILESTONE MATCHING WITH OOOCON2007 PERIOD.

THIS IS AN I18N COMMENT, AND PERHAPS MORE RELEVANT TO FUTURE
TESTING,  
BUT...

CARBON HAS A NUMBER OF UNICODE "HOLES", COMPARED
TO COCOA. YOU WILL  
NEED MUCH MORE RIGOROUS UNICODE TESTING BEFORE RELEASING FOR
OTHER  
LANGUAGES, THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU USED COCOA.

(I HAVE ENDED UP AS A DE FACTO UNICODE TESTER FOR MAC APPS,
SINCE MY  
LANGUAGE (WITH COMBINED DIACRITICS) IS A TEST CASE FOR
UNICODE SUPPORT.)

IT TOOK ME SIX MONTHS ONCE TO TRACK DOWN A BUG WITH CARBON
AND  
DISPLAY OF COMBINED DIACRITICS. I WISH YOU WERE USING COCOA.
:(

BUT ALL THE SAME, I VOLUNTEER TO DO UNICODE TESTING (ON
INTEL) WHEN  
YOU'RE READY.

FROM CLYTIE (VI-VN, VIETNAMESE FREE-SOFTWARE TRANSLATION
TEAM / NH�M  
VI{�T H�A PHz�N M{�M T{� DO)
HTTP://GROUPS-BETA.GOOGLE.COM/GROUP/VI-VN

Hi Clytie,

Clytie Siddall wrote:
> On 16/08/2007, at 12:45 AM, eric.bachard wrote:
> 
>> Once fixed, we will provide a Carbon version
matching with the 
>> milestone corresponding to the integration.
>> And if we are in a hurry, we will simply provide
the current milestone 
>> matching with OOoCon2007 period.
> 
> This is an i18n comment, and perhaps more relevant to
future testing, 
> but...
> 
> Carbon has a number of Unicode "holes",
compared to Cocoa. You will need 
> much more rigorous Unicode testing before releasing for
other languages, 
> than you would if you used Cocoa.
> 
> (I have ended up as a de facto Unicode tester for Mac
apps, since my 
> language (with combined diacritics) is a test case for
Unicode support.)
> 
> It took me six months once to track down a bug with
Carbon and display 
> of combined diacritics. I wish you were using Cocoa.
:(
> 
> But all the same, I volunteer to do Unicode testing (on
Intel) when 
> you're ready.

In the issues that are planned to be fixed for this CWS
there are no 
changes expected that would affect the unicode behaviour.
All problems 
regarding unicode should already be visible in the m225
builds, so you 
can start to identify them already.

--
Herbert

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ON 16/08/2007, AT 6:41 PM, H DUERR WROTE:

> HI CLYTIE,
>
> CLYTIE SIDDALL WROTE:
>> ON 16/08/2007, AT 12:45 AM, ERIC.BACHARD WROTE:
>>> ONCE FIXED, WE WILL PROVIDE A CARBON VERSION
MATCHING WITH THE  
>>> MILESTONE CORRESPONDING TO THE INTEGRATION.
>>> AND IF WE ARE IN A HURRY, WE WILL SIMPLY
PROVIDE THE CURRENT  
>>> MILESTONE MATCHING WITH OOOCON2007 PERIOD.
>> THIS IS AN I18N COMMENT, AND PERHAPS MORE RELEVANT
TO FUTURE  
>> TESTING, BUT...
>> CARBON HAS A NUMBER OF UNICODE "HOLES",
COMPARED TO COCOA. YOU  
>> WILL NEED MUCH MORE RIGOROUS UNICODE TESTING BEFORE
RELEASING FOR  
>> OTHER LANGUAGES, THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU USED COCOA.
>> (I HAVE ENDED UP AS A DE FACTO UNICODE TESTER FOR
MAC APPS, SINCE  
>> MY LANGUAGE (WITH COMBINED DIACRITICS) IS A TEST
CASE FOR UNICODE  
>> SUPPORT.)
>> IT TOOK ME SIX MONTHS ONCE TO TRACK DOWN A BUG WITH
CARBON AND  
>> DISPLAY OF COMBINED DIACRITICS. I WISH YOU WERE
USING COCOA. :(
>> BUT ALL THE SAME, I VOLUNTEER TO DO UNICODE TESTING
(ON INTEL)  
>> WHEN YOU'RE READY.
>
> IN THE ISSUES THAT ARE PLANNED TO BE FIXED FOR THIS CWS
THERE ARE  
> NO CHANGES EXPECTED THAT WOULD AFFECT THE UNICODE
BEHAVIOUR. ALL  
> PROBLEMS REGARDING UNICODE SHOULD ALREADY BE VISIBLE IN
THE M225  
> BUILDS, SO YOU CAN START TO IDENTIFY THEM ALREADY.

THANKS FOR THAT INFO, HERBERT. MAHO HASN'T HAD THE TIME OR
RESOURCES  
TO CREATE LOCALIZED M225 BUILDS FOR OSX YET. I'M REALLY
REFERRING TO  
THE AQUA BUILDS, SINCE X11 ALREADY HAS A STACK OF UNICODE
ISSUES. THE  
NATIVE MAC OS HAS, IN GENERAL, GOOD UNICODE SUPPORT, BUT
ORIGINALLY  
IT HAD SOME FRUSTRATING HOLES TO FIX.

SO, ONCE THE AQUA BUILDS ARE AT BETA LEVEL, I CAN START
UNICODE  
TESTING THEM. 

FROM CLYTIE (VI-VN, VIETNAMESE FREE-SOFTWARE TRANSLATION
TEAM / NH�M  
VI{�T H�A PHz�N M{�M T{� DO)
HTTP://GROUPS-BETA.GOOGLE.COM/GROUP/VI-VN

On 15 Aug 2007, at 16:15, eric.bachard wrote:

>
> 2) fix blackframe at launch, or for every new frame.
Backport from  
> aquavcl03, or maybe already in aquavcl02, unsure ... )
( http:// 
> www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75981 )

This should be http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=79581 

(minor typo)


		
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