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BitTorrent
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2006-04-21 22:54:03
Quoting David A. Temeles, Jr. (dtemelesnvalaw.com):

> My response:

For small values of "response".

> On what basis can OSI preclude anyone from designating
their software
> license as "open source"?  I am new to this
list, but I cannot comprehend
> how OSI would have the legal right to preclude anyone
from using the phrase
> "open source" in any fashion. 

Mu.

You are asking a question based on a fundamental error of
fact.  (Nobody 
talked about such "precluding"; OSI's claim to
the canonical definition of
that term in the software context is a matter of history and
usage, and
thus rests largely on a moral claim, not to mention the
backing of many 
interested parties.)

Welcome to the mailing list, anyway.  We won't hold that
against you.  ;->

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however complicated, 
Rick Moen                 which, when you looked at it in
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Centric CRM WAS: BitTorrent
user name
2006-04-21 23:39:01
Out of curiosity, does the OSI police the term "open source" when not applied to a license?  Centric CRM claims to be an open source company, and indeed makes it's source code available, but under a license worthy of the older Microsoft Shared Source program.  The license opens with:
*****
In particular, our intent is that:

You may use, copy, modify, and make derivative works from the code for internal
use only.

You may not redistribute the code, and you may not sublicense copies or
derivatives of the code, either as software or as a service.
*****
Sort of at odds with the rest of their marketing as an "open source CRM company".
stephe

Rick Moen wrote:
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Quoting David A. Temeles, Jr. (nvalaw.com">dtemelesnvalaw.com):

  
My response:
    

For small values of "response".

  
On what basis can OSI preclude anyone from designating their software
license as "open source"?  I am new to this list, but I cannot comprehend
how OSI would have the legal right to preclude anyone from using the phrase
"open source" in any fashion. 
    

Mu.

You are asking a question based on a fundamental error of fact.  (Nobody 
talked about such "precluding"; OSI's claim to the canonical definition of
that term in the software context is a matter of history and usage, and
thus rests largely on a moral claim, not to mention the backing of many 
interested parties.)

Welcome to the mailing list, anyway.  We won't hold that against you.  ;->
  
-- 
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Vice-president, Open Source Development Strategy
Optaros, Inc.  (http://www.optaros.com)
mailto: optaros.com">stepheoptaros.com 
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mobile: +1 425 785 6102
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Centric CRM WAS: BitTorrent
user name
2006-04-23 15:59:28
Stephen Walli wrote:
> Out of curiosity, does the OSI police the term
"open source" when not 
> applied to a license?
No.  It doesn't even police it when it is describing a
license, because 
there's no trademark on it.  That's why OSI-certification
was created.

-Matthew Flaschen
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