Specification Process Possibilities ... what about a wiki?

Hi David, All,
It would be great if we could continue the wiki discussion
on 
specsopenoffice.org. I think this is the right place for
stuff like that.

BTW. The spec template macro problems are now fixed.

Regards,
Christian


David Fraser schrieb:
> Hi Christian
> 
> Thanks for your offer! I think a wiki version of the
Template would be a 
> substantial aid to many people, and from the rest of
the response on the 
> mailing list I'm not alone in thinking that.
> Could you let us know if you start working on this - I
presume 
> wiki.services.openoffice.org is the place - as then
others could perhaps 
> participate 
> 
> Regards
> David
> 
> Christian Jansen wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> from a feature documentation perspective it makes
no difference to use 
>> the template, a wiki, a HTML page, or what ever
comes into your mind.
>>
>> I think it is more important that the UI feature
and its functionality 
>> is described in well mannor. I personally think a
wiki is absolutely 
>> fine to do that, but both (template or wiki) should
follow the same 
>> guidelines.
>>
>> The template was intended to give novice spec
writers some help to 
>> write a spec. We decided to use the Writer format
because it allows us 
>> to do some automation which makes it convenient to
use. Especially 
>> creating complex tables in a wiki is no fun.
>>
>> However, I can offer to create a wiki-version of
the new template.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christian
>>
>> David Fraser schrieb:
>>> Kazunari Hirano wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Frank Schönheit wrote:
>>>>> However, what I really *really* like
about this process is
>>>>> the exchange of ideas and arguments.
>>>>
>>>> I respect the process.
>>>> I encourage community developers and CJK
developers to access the spec
>>>> project wiki [1] and the spec template [2].
>>> For issue 12719 I attempted to have a faster
and more accessible 
>>> specification process
>>> This involved developing the spec
collaboratively in the wiki
>>> Unfortunately the spec team did not like this
idea and have gone for 
>>> an OOo template for designing specifications
with
>>> This is perhaps better than the previous
system, but I think there 
>>> are still significant cases where using a wiki
is a much faster route 
>>> for people (particularly outside contributors)
to use to 
>>> collaboratively produce a specification.
>>> Unfortunately I did not have time to pursue
this idea; fortunately 
>>> the Sun team that took over the issue did look
through our wiki-based 
>>> spec and hopefully included some things - the
issue is now fixed 
>>> which is nice 
>>>
>>> But I would like to propose that this approach
to spec generation be 
>>> given more thought. Reasons:
>>> 1) Wikis are designed for this
>>> 2) It is easier for a person not heavily
involved in OOo to go to a 
>>> wiki page, make a few changes, edit it, and
submit, then it is to get 
>>> a document out of version control etc, open it
in OOo, change it and 
>>> submit
>>> 3) The spec process is apparently working well
for those inside Sun, 
>>> less well for those outside. If there were an
easier route for those 
>>> less involved in development to produce specs
it could be run 
>>> concurrently as an alternate mechanism
(possibly with a final step of 
>>> converting to the required template format,
that could be automated)
>>> 4) This would perhaps be particularly helpful
for outside 
>>> contributers who are not coders
>>> 5) Less likely to break due to problems in the
OOo template macros 
>>>
>>> This was done by having a wiki template that
could then be filled out 
>>> to produce the spec.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> David
>>>
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