How does the annoucement of specs work?

Hi *,

Sometimes I seem to mis new specs.
I'm subscribed to this list and to announcespecs.ooo
As well as most (I think) dev-lists.

Is there something else (convenient pls  ) I can
do to see what comes 
new?

Thanks,
Cor

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On 7/24/07, Cor Nouws <oolstnouenoff.nl> wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> Sometimes I seem to mis new specs.
> I'm subscribed to this list and to announcespecs.ooo
> As well as most (I think) dev-lists.
>
> Is there something else (convenient pls  ) I can
do to see what comes
> new?

What I noticed in practice, is that each component (sw, sc,
graphics...) has its own mailing list called
"features" (ex:
featuressw.openoffice.org). Most of the specs are sent using
those
lists.

It is true however that it would be nice to have a
centralized mailing
to receive all specs.

Regards,
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Pierre-André Galmes
Free Software consultant
StarXpert - www.starxpert.fr
6, rue Eugène Varlin - 75010 Paris

>> Sometimes I seem to mis new specs.
>> I'm subscribed to this list and to announcespecs.ooo
>> As well as most (I think) dev-lists.
>>
>> Is there something else (convenient pls  ) I can
do to see what comes
>> new?
> 
> What I noticed in practice, is that each component (sw,
sc,
> graphics...) has its own mailing list called
"features" (ex:
> featuressw.openoffice.org). Most of the specs are
sent using those
> lists.
> 
> It is true however that it would be nice to have a
centralized mailing
> to receive all specs.

allfeaturesopenoffice.org collects the mails from the single
project's
feature lists.

However, when a mail is sent to features<project>, this normally means
the implementation is done.

In earlier phases, specifications, and specification
changes, are
expected to appear at announcespecs.openoffice.org.
However, the habit
to do so is not very wide-spread ...

Ciao
Frank

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Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:
> allfeaturesopenoffice.org collects the mails from the
single project's
> feature lists.

...but is dead for months now, 
<http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75007
>  :(

-Stephan

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Hi Stephan,

>> allfeaturesopenoffice.org collects the mails from the
single project's
>> feature lists.
> 
> ...but is dead for months now, 
> <http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75007
>  :(

RESOLVED DUPLICATE of a RESOLVED LATER issue? This is
ridiculous. If
collab.net is unable to fix this in our current
installation, then we
should at least stop advertising the list at
http://www.
openoffice.org/mail_list.html.

cc'ing devwebsite. Anybody with the power to remove this entry
from the
mailing list list?

Ciao
Frank

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Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:

>>>Sometimes I seem to mis new specs.
>>>I'm subscribed to this list and to announcespecs.ooo
>>>As well as most (I think) dev-lists.
>>>
>>>Is there something else (convenient pls  ) I can
do to see what comes
>>>new?
>>
>>What I noticed in practice, is that each component
(sw, sc,
>>graphics...) has its own mailing list called
"features" (ex:
>>featuressw.openoffice.org). Most of the specs are
sent using those
>>lists.
>>
>>It is true however that it would be nice to have a
centralized mailing
>>to receive all specs.
> 
> 
> allfeaturesopenoffice.org collects the mails from the
single project's
> feature lists.
> 
> However, when a mail is sent to features<project>, this normally means
> the implementation is done.
> 
> In earlier phases, specifications, and specification
changes, are
> expected to appear at announcespecs.openoffice.org.
However, the habit
> to do so is not very wide-spread ...

Thanks for the replies so far.
It may be obvious that my question is related to "a
hidden spec", that 
caused #79950.
Though maybe I (only speaking for myself) am not unhappy
with the change 
in question, it is not ideal that no spec has been presented
and that no 
discussion at UX has taken place, for example.

Kindest regards,
Cor


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Hi,

Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:

>>> allfeaturesopenoffice.org collects the
mails from the single project's
>>> feature lists.
>> ...but is dead for months now, 
>> <http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75007
>  :(
> 
> RESOLVED DUPLICATE of a RESOLVED LATER issue? This is
ridiculous. If
> collab.net is unable to fix this in our current
installation, then we
> should at least stop advertising the list at
> http://www.
openoffice.org/mail_list.html.
> 
> cc'ing devwebsite. Anybody with the power to remove
this entry from the
> mailing list list?

Done; albeit with a bad aftertaste :-(


Within the given infrastructure (with the mentioned bug)
there is no way 
to collect messages from several list in one. So there are
two options:
- we stick with a list per project
- we use allfeatures only for all projects

Opinions?

Greetings
Stefan

PS: Let's follow-up on devwebsite

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Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:
> In earlier phases, specifications, and specification
changes, are
> expected to appear at announcespecs.openoffice.org.
However, the habit
> to do so is not very wide-spread ...
> 
> Ciao
> Frank

I would like to second this.- Even more. If we manage to
change this bad 
habit, we will be able to save a significant amount of
engineering 
effort by finding design glitches early on. More people can
take a look 
at the specifications when coding has just started. Less
work is lost 
when the concept has to be changed (for good reason) during
this phase.

my 2 billion cents
Matthias

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