Re: Orca SEVERE Firefox regression independent of (was Re: is now crashing Firefox 3.0)

OK, the Saturday FF is the last stable one. A few minutes
ago I
installed the very latest (12th of March), and, believe it
or not, it is
even worse than the yesterday's one.
But one additional observation: On Saturday I reported the
bookmarks
menu bug as gone; after installing Saturday's FF it is back.
Seems to
become a never ending story.
If this goes on, I think we should take a look for
alternatives. As far
as I know, there aren't other browsers, working under Gnome
and AT-SPI.
But perhaps someone knows more.
Regards
Hermann


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At the risk of opening an unnecessary  can of worms, is
Epiphany viable at 
all? I seem to get no fruitful results when I use apt-get to
retrieve it. In 
*some* ways, it worked better for a little while than
firefox, though now it 
seems to be unavailable.

Teresa
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From: "hermann" <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
To: "Lorenzo Taylor" <lorenzotaylor.homelinux.net>
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Subject: Re: Orca SEVERE Firefox regression independent of
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crashing Firefox 3.0)


> OK, the Saturday FF is the last stable one. A few
minutes ago I
> installed the very latest (12th of March), and, believe
it or not, it is
> even worse than the yesterday's one.
> But one additional observation: On Saturday I reported
the bookmarks
> menu bug as gone; after installing Saturday's FF it is
back. Seems to
> become a never ending story.
> If this goes on, I think we should take a look for
alternatives. As far
> as I know, there aren't other browsers, working under
Gnome and AT-SPI.
> But perhaps someone knows more.
> Regards
> Hermann
>
>
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Hi Teresa

epiphany-browser is the package your looking for.

--Frank


On Mon, Mar 12, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> At the risk of opening an unnecessary  can of worms, is
Epiphany viable at 
> all? I seem to get no fruitful results when I use
apt-get to retrieve it. In 
> *some* ways, it worked better for a little while than
firefox, though now it 
> seems to be unavailable.
> 
> Teresa
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "hermann" <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> To: "Lorenzo Taylor" <lorenzotaylor.homelinux.net>
> Cc: "Willie Walker" <William.WalkerSun.COM>; <orca-listgnome.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Orca SEVERE Firefox regression independent
of (was Re: isnow 
> crashing Firefox 3.0)
> 
> 
> > OK, the Saturday FF is the last stable one. A few
minutes ago I
> > installed the very latest (12th of March), and,
believe it or not, it is
> > even worse than the yesterday's one.
> > But one additional observation: On Saturday I
reported the bookmarks
> > menu bug as gone; after installing Saturday's FF
it is back. Seems to
> > become a never ending story.
> > If this goes on, I think we should take a look for
alternatives. As far
> > as I know, there aren't other browsers, working
under Gnome and AT-SPI.
> > But perhaps someone knows more.
> > Regards
> > Hermann
> >
> >
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Oops, oh fooey. thank you!

Teresa, whose command of command-line is just enough to make
her dangerous
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From: "Frank Carmickle" <frankcarmickle.com>
To: "Teresa Cochran" <pipistrellecox.net>
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Orca Other browsers (was Re: is now crashing
Firefox 3.0)


> Hi Teresa
> 
> epiphany-browser is the package your looking for.
> 
> --Frank
> 

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Hi all,
first a tip: Type:
aptitude search string
if you want to know, whether a certain program exists in
Ubuntu. String
could be a part of a name.
Regarding Epiphany: Where's the advantage? A first test
resulted in only
a few methods to view a page: Using tab and Shift+Tab is
one, flat
review the other. But no further navigation, no caret
browsing, no
hotkeys to navigate on certain elements, such as headings
links etc.
The settings menu is rather small, and there are no
accessibility
settings.
Maybe an alternative for low visioned persons, who can
partially use the
mouse. But I guess they can also use Firefox a little better
than
completely blind persons.
Regards
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I think having a discussion regarding other browsers is a
good thing, 
but we need to keep the bigger picture in mind: there is
actually a team 
of people dedicated specifically to the internals of Firefox

accessibility.  I don't know of any other browser that has
this 
dedication.   We need to make sure we keep the communication
open with 
this team and keep feeding them bugs and enhancements to
work on.  It's 
very frustrating right now for all three sides (Firefox
developers, Orca 
developers, and users), but we have the potential to do a
good job if we 
remain focused.

Will

hermann wrote:
> Hi all,
> first a tip: Type:
> aptitude search string
> if you want to know, whether a certain program exists
in Ubuntu. String
> could be a part of a name.
> Regarding Epiphany: Where's the advantage? A first test
resulted in only
> a few methods to view a page: Using tab and Shift+Tab
is one, flat
> review the other. But no further navigation, no caret
browsing, no
> hotkeys to navigate on certain elements, such as
headings links etc.
> The settings menu is rather small, and there are no
accessibility
> settings.
> Maybe an alternative for low visioned persons, who can
partially use the
> mouse. But I guess they can also use Firefox a little
better than
> completely blind persons.
> Regards
> Hermann
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Orca-listgnome.org
> http
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