Orca spells passwords in text applications

Hi again,
when I use a text browser in the Gnome terminal and I've to
type in a
password on a webpage, Orca spells it out. This doesn't
happen in
desktop applications. I think this shouldn't happen for
security
reasons. The braille display does not show the password, it
shows
asterisks "*".
Is there a way to correct this?
Regards
Hermann


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Hi Hermann:

Do you have key echo turned on?   This would cause keys to
be echoed as 
they are typed, and thus might cause the echoing you are
hearing.  The 
solution is to turn key echo off.  Unfortunately, I'm going
to guess 
it's not that simple since you don't seem to experience the
same problem 
in desktop apps and since you see "*" on the
braille display.

Which text browser are you using and which web site are you
visiting?  
I'd like to try to reproduce the problem here.

Tank

hermann wrote:
> Hi again,
> when I use a text browser in the Gnome terminal and
I've to type in a
> password on a webpage, Orca spells it out. This doesn't
happen in
> desktop applications. I think this shouldn't happen for
security
> reasons. The braille display does not show the
password, it shows
> asterisks "*".
> Is there a way to correct this?
> Regards
> Hermann
>
>
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Hi Will,
I use either w3m or links, it happens in both programs.
As example see:
http
://www.as-2.de/mailman/private/kuechentipps/
But it happens on any site.
I indeed have keyecho turned on, but my guess is, that Orca
identifies
the password field in text browsers as normal text box,
while it doesn't
so in, for example, Firefox. Only a thought.
Regards
Hermann


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Hi Hermann:

It is indeed key echo that is causing this.  When Orca knows
the user is 
typing in a password field, it will purposely bypass the key
echo.   The 
problem you're running into is that Orca has no idea you are
typing a 
password -- you're typing in a terminal window.  As such,
Orca happily 
echoes the keys as you type them.

The "simple" workaround is to see if the text
output matches the key 
that is typed.  Unfortunately, these things come at Orca in
separate 
events and they are unbound to each other.  As such, I'm not
sure of a 
straightforward way to let Orca know you're typing a
password in a 
terminal window and thus bypass key echo. 

As a workaround, we could come up with a scheme for you to
quickly 
enable/disable key echo.  There's a related RFE on this in
the Orca 
bugzilla database: htt
p://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400728.

Would that be an OK alternative?

Will

hermann wrote:
> Hi Will,
> I use either w3m or links, it happens in both
programs.
> As example see:
> http
://www.as-2.de/mailman/private/kuechentipps/
> But it happens on any site.
> I indeed have keyecho turned on, but my guess is, that
Orca identifies
> the password field in text browsers as normal text box,
while it doesn't
> so in, for example, Firefox. Only a thought.
> Regards
> Hermann
>
>
>   

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Hi Will,
the suggested set of hotkeys would be a nice feature.
Partially it
already exists (insert+f11), so it should be extended.
Regards
Hermann


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