Friends,
I think One dedicated group should be there to test
applications on
different operating systems.
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> 1. What happened to the Acroread script? (hermann)
> 2. Re: What happened to the Acroread script?
(Joanmarie Diggs)
> 3. Re: What happened to the Acroread script?
(hermann)
> 4. ff3 testing platform (Christopher Moore)
> 5. identifying visited links (was Re: new address
(was Re:
> Structural Navigation for Links has been added))
(Joanmarie Diggs)
> 6. Re: identifying visited links (was Re: new
address (was Re:
> Structural Navigation for Links has been added))
(hermann)
> 7. Re: ff3 testing platform (hermann)
> 8. Re: identifying visited links (was Re: new
address (was Re:
> Structural Navigation for Links has been added))
(Joanmarie Diggs)
> 9. Re: What happened to the Acroread script? (Rich
Burridge)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:44:01 +0100
> From: hermann <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> Subject: Orca What happened to the Acroread script?
> To: orca-listgnome.org
> Message-ID: <1174049043.4956.16.camelubuntu>
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> Hi,
> I tried to read a PDF-document, with no succes. All my
PDF files are no
> more accessible. In earlier Orca versions they were
readable. During the
> refactoring of Orca I saw a new acroread.py.
> What has happened?
> Hermann
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:07:03 -0400
> From: Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie.diggsgmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Orca What happened to the Acroread
script?
> To: hermann <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> Cc: orca-listgnome.org
> Message-ID: <1174050423.5358.5.camelpokey>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Looks like another refactoring problem. I'll send my
full debug.out to
> Rich as he's Mr. Refactor. <smile>
>
> Thanks!!
> Joanie
>
> On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 13:44 +0100, hermann wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I tried to read a PDF-document, with no succes.
All my PDF files are no
> > more accessible. In earlier Orca versions they
were readable. During the
> > refactoring of Orca I saw a new acroread.py.
> > What has happened?
> > Hermann
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:12:57 +0100
> From: hermann <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> Subject: Re: Orca What happened to the Acroread
script?
> To: Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie.diggsgmail.com>
> Cc: orca-listgnome.org
> Message-ID: <1174050777.4956.19.camelubuntu>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hi Joanie,
> it really seems as you said: I recompiled Orca from the
2.18 branch, and
> PDF files are readable again.
> Regards
> Hermann
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:32:33 -0400
> From: Christopher Moore <christopher.h.mooreverizon.net>
> Subject: Orca ff3 testing platform
> To: orca-listgnome.org
> Message-ID: <20070316133233.GA4085riley>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello,
> Many of the problems cited in messages on this list
seem to relate back
> to machines
> running different variants of linux and I suppose
solaris. So during
> this period of ff3 testing would it be helpful for
users and developers
> to decide on a common platform? Once the testing phase
were reasonably
> stable on the given platform, testing could be expanded
to alternative
> distros.
>
> This is obviously not a complete solution because it
does not take into
> account the variation in hardware, but it would reduce
the vagueries
> introduced by software differences.
>
> lorenzo's experience is a perfect example of what I am
talking about.
> He thought that upgrading to Feisty was a good thing
because he would
> receive the advantages
> the 2.18 gnome packages. But the ff3 developers are
apparently testing
> on some other software platform.
>
> I don't want to open up the "which is the best
distro" debate, but I
> would like to see a particular one endorsed for ff3 and
orca testing.
> If making such a policy statement would place the orca
team in an
> uncomfortable position, we could at least have some
informal feedback
> on this list from testers' experiences using a variety
of distros.
>
> Chris
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:38:29 -0400
> From: Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie.diggsgmail.com>
> Subject: Orca identifying visited links (was Re: new
address (was Re:
> Structural Navigation for Links has been added))
> To: hermann <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> Cc: Orca MailingList <orca-listgnome.org>
> Message-ID: <1174052309.5358.27.camelpokey>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hi Hermann, all.
>
> Hermann and I started an off-list conversation
surrounding my Comcast
> issues and switching to Gmail. But Hermann's question
is one that
> should be on-list I think (hope you don't mind
Hermann!):
>
> > How does Gecko.py identify visited links? Could it
be a colour problem?
> > I think visited links are shown in a different
colour, right?
>
> Visited links are sometimes shown in a different color;
sometimes not.
> In the old days they always were. Then folks figured
out ways to make
> their pages prettier by controlling link colors.
<smile>
>
> Regardless, it is not a color problem because we're not
looking at the
> color when determining whether or not a link is
visited. One of the
> properties of links exposed via at-spi is its visited
state. The script
> looks at the next (or previous) link and through at-spi
says "hey, have
> you been visited?" If the link claims that it
has, we stop; else we
> move on to the next (or previous) link. So,
potentially the problem is
> that a link is lying about whether or not it's been
visited. But I
> don't think that's the case....
>
> Is there any chance that in your Preferences dialog,
under Privacy, you
> unchecked the checkbox called "Remember visited
pages for the last X
> days?" If you uncheck that checkbox, Firefox
won't remember visited
> pages and links that you visited will no longer claim
to be visited.
>
> If that isn't it.... Would you mind doing the
following:
>
> 1. Go to dradio.de
> 2. Follow a link, then immediately press Alt Left Arrow
to go back
> 3. Tab a few times, follow another link, then
immediately press Alt Left
> Arrow to go back (do this a couple of times)
> 4. Then try V and Shift V
>
> Thanks!
> Joanie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:10:03 +0100
> From: hermann <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> Subject: Re: Orca identifying visited links (was Re:
new address (was
> Re: Structural Navigation for Links has been added))
> To: Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie.diggsgmail.com>
> Cc: Orca MailingList <orca-listgnome.org>
> Message-ID: <1174054203.4956.24.camelubuntu>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Yeah! That privacy settings do the job.
> I use to treat such settings restricted, since I don't
want to keep so
> many sites in my browser's cache. Maybe a bit German
<smile>, but
> privacy is a top issue in our country.
> Hermann
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:15:03 +0100
> From: hermann <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> Subject: Re: Orca ff3 testing platform
> To: Christopher Moore <christopher.h.mooreverizon.net>
> Cc: orca-listgnome.org
> Message-ID: <1174054504.4956.29.camelubuntu>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hi Chris,
> in my view this is not very practicable. What about
those people running
> the "wrong" platform? Shouldn't they test at
all, or shall they do it
> "just for fun"?
> I think that a detailed report is more useful; this of
course should
> include the used Linux distro.
> Regards
> Hermann
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:15:45 -0400
> From: Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie.diggsgmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Orca identifying visited links (was Re:
new address (was
> Re: Structural Navigation for Links has been added))
> To: hermann <steppenwolf2onlinehome.de>
> Cc: Orca MailingList <orca-listgnome.org>
> Message-ID: <1174054545.5358.31.camelpokey>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hi Hermann.
>
> > Yeah! That privacy settings do the job.
>
> Awesome!
>
> > I use to treat such settings restricted, since I
don't want to keep so
> > many sites in my browser's cache. Maybe a bit
German <smile>, but
> > privacy is a top issue in our country.
>
> I won't comment about privacy issues in the U.S. other
than to say I'm a
> card-carrying, dues-paying member of the EFF.
<grin> As for that
> setting: You could lower the number of days to, say, 1.
Seems 9 is the
> default.
>
> Thanks for all the testing and feedback!
> Joanie
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:51:42 -0700
> From: Rich Burridge <Rich.BurridgeSun.COM>
> Subject: Re: Orca What happened to the Acroread
script?
> To: Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie.diggsgmail.com>
> Cc: orca-listgnome.org
> Message-ID: <45FAAEFE.9010008sun.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Looks like another refactoring problem. I'll send
my full debug.out to
> > Rich as he's Mr. Refactor. <smile>
> >
>
> Yup, I'm guilty. A couple cases of
self.isDesiredFocusedItem() need to be
> orca_state.activeScript.isDesiredFocusedItem()
>
> I've attached a new acroread.py script (untested) for
you to try.
>
> As an aside, I think we should adjust the acroread.py
script so that
> all the routines at the top, that are not part of the
Script class, are in
> the subclassed Script class. I can't see a reason why
they shouldn't be,
> and that
> would mean that self.isDesiredFocusedItem() would work
(which is cleaner).
>
> I can just see Joanie going "but, but, you did
exactly this in the
> StarOffice script. I was just copying you!" In
that case, those routines
> are used in the subclassed SpeechGenerator and
BrailleGenerator
> class, and the only way to solve this (when I initially
wrote that script)
> was to put them outside the Script class. Now that we
have
> orca_state.activeScript, those too should probably be
moved down to
> the Script class. (What do you think on the last part
Will).
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