orca and festival loss of speech update

Hi 

I have following in a script:
#!/bin/bash
For i in `ps aux | grep synthesis-driver | awk '{print
$2}'`;do kill -9
$i;done

Regards,

Javier.




> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Cody Hurst [mailto:churst31verizon.net] 
> Enviado el: martes, 30 de mayo de 2006 1:18
> Para: Orca screen reader developers
> Asunto: Re: orca and festival loss of speech update
> 
> 
> would a killall -v festival-synthesis-driver work?
> 
> Cody
> On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 12:11 +0200, Fco. Javier Dorado
Martínez wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > Cody try to kill all the festival-synthesis-driver

> processes running 
> > in your system and then restarting Orca. This
should work.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Javier.
> > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 06:13:08PM -0400, Cody
Hurst wrote:
> > > Hi listers,
> > > 
> > >   I had written an email before stating that
when using Orca, it 
> > > would randomly quit taling. I tried then
killing orca, as well as 
> > > Festival and then launching orca agian form
the run box. This did 
> > > not work. I only get the welcome message, and
no further details, 
> > > like where the focus is, usually it would say
"Desktop 
> frame" but I 
> > > don't even get that. Therefore I can not use
any of the 
> functions of 
> > > orca. I then killed festival and orca then
tried running 
> gnopernicus 
> > > and still I get the same results. I get the
welcome message to 
> > > gnopernicus but no further feedback. This
forces me to 
> power off the 
> > > machine manually. Is this a bug in festival
or Fedora core 5? Has 
> > > anyone experienced this before. Orca will bog
out 
> randomly like say, 
> > > when typing a letter, using gaim, using
evolution, etc. 
> Why is this 
> > > and how can I fix it?
> > > 
> > > Cody
> > > 
> > >
_______________________________________________
> > > Orca-list mailing list
> > > Orca-listgnome.org 
> http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-> list
> > 
> 
> 
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Hey Cody:

We've recently done some work on the random hangs that
sometimes happen
with Orca.  The work, which is in GNOME CVS HEAD, has
drastically
reduced a number of the random hangs, but we've not been
able to get rid
of them completely.  :-(  The gnome-speech driver for
festival has also
been somewhat flaky in the past - I've seen the socket
between
gnome-speech and festival go a bit nutty and throttle the
CPU.  I've
never figured out why this is happening, but it may be
something you are
running into.  That is, if you're using Festival and the
gnome-speech
driver goes nuts, it might end up hanging Orca.  Killing
festival and
festival-synthesis-driver should help in this case.

In addition, one thing I've noticed on Ubuntu is that if
you run the GUI
desktop as a "normal" user but then run a GUI
application as root, Orca
will hang while trying to access the GUI app being run as
root.  I've
not dug into this deeply, but think this is an AT-SPI
infrastructure
limitation.  For now, the workaround is "don't do
that."  :-(   The good
news, however, is that I believe IBM is working on a fix for
this.

Will

On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 07:49 +0200, "Dorado Martínez,
Francisco Javier"
wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> I have following in a script:
> #!/bin/bash
> For i in `ps aux | grep synthesis-driver | awk '{print
$2}'`;do kill -9
> $i;done
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Javier.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Cody Hurst [mailto:churst31verizon.net] 
> > Enviado el: martes, 30 de mayo de 2006 1:18
> > Para: Orca screen reader developers
> > Asunto: Re: orca and festival loss of speech
update
> > 
> > 
> > would a killall -v festival-synthesis-driver work?
> > 
> > Cody
> > On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 12:11 +0200, Fco. Javier
Dorado Martínez wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > > 
> > > Cody try to kill all the
festival-synthesis-driver 
> > processes running 
> > > in your system and then restarting Orca. This
should work.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Javier.
> > > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 06:13:08PM -0400,
Cody Hurst wrote:
> > > > Hi listers,
> > > > 
> > > >   I had written an email before stating
that when using Orca, it 
> > > > would randomly quit taling. I tried then
killing orca, as well as 
> > > > Festival and then launching orca agian
form the run box. This did 
> > > > not work. I only get the welcome
message, and no further details, 
> > > > like where the focus is, usually it
would say "Desktop 
> > frame" but I 
> > > > don't even get that. Therefore I can
not use any of the 
> > functions of 
> > > > orca. I then killed festival and orca
then tried running 
> > gnopernicus 
> > > > and still I get the same results. I get
the welcome message to 
> > > > gnopernicus but no further feedback.
This forces me to 
> > power off the 
> > > > machine manually. Is this a bug in
festival or Fedora core 5? Has 
> > > > anyone experienced this before. Orca
will bog out 
> > randomly like say, 
> > > > when typing a letter, using gaim, using
evolution, etc. 
> > Why is this 
> > > > and how can I fix it?
> > > > 
> > > > Cody
> > > > 
> > > >
_______________________________________________
> > > > Orca-list mailing list
> > > > Orca-listgnome.org 
> > http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-> list
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > 
> > Orca-list mailing list
> > Orca-listgnome.org http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> Orca-list mailing list
> Orca-listgnome.org
> http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list

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Hi Will,

  You hit on a great point. There have been a lot of times
when
mymachine's harddrive light will go crazy. uh oh orca just
quit. This
will happen at very strange times, like if I'm sitting on
my desktop, or
in a terminal or even writing an email or talking online in
gaim. I have
tried killing orca, then killing festival, then running orca
again. All
I get is a welcome to orca message, and nothing further,
this forces me
to manually reboot the system. I still run into this issue
and can't
figure out a way to get around it.

  As for the thottle of CPU speed, please please work ont
his one. it
slows my machine and freezes up speech as well.

Cody

On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 09:55 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> Hey Cody:
> 
> We've recently done some work on the random hangs that
sometimes happen
> with Orca.  The work, which is in GNOME CVS HEAD, has
drastically
> reduced a number of the random hangs, but we've not
been able to get rid
> of them completely.  :-(  The gnome-speech driver for
festival has also
> been somewhat flaky in the past - I've seen the socket
between
> gnome-speech and festival go a bit nutty and throttle
the CPU.  I've
> never figured out why this is happening, but it may be
something you are
> running into.  That is, if you're using Festival and
the gnome-speech
> driver goes nuts, it might end up hanging Orca. 
Killing festival and
> festival-synthesis-driver should help in this case.
> 
> In addition, one thing I've noticed on Ubuntu is that
if you run the GUI
> desktop as a "normal" user but then run a
GUI application as root, Orca
> will hang while trying to access the GUI app being run
as root.  I've
> not dug into this deeply, but think this is an AT-SPI
infrastructure
> limitation.  For now, the workaround is "don't
do that."  :-(   The good
> news, however, is that I believe IBM is working on a
fix for this.
> 
> Will
> 
> On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 07:49 +0200, "Dorado
Martínez, Francisco Javier"
> wrote:
> > Hi 
> > 
> > I have following in a script:
> > #!/bin/bash
> > For i in `ps aux | grep synthesis-driver | awk
'{print $2}'`;do kill -9
> > $i;done
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Javier.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Mensaje original-----
> > > De: Cody Hurst [mailto:churst31verizon.net] 
> > > Enviado el: martes, 30 de mayo de 2006 1:18
> > > Para: Orca screen reader developers
> > > Asunto: Re: orca and festival loss of speech
update
> > > 
> > > 
> > > would a killall -v festival-synthesis-driver
work?
> > > 
> > > Cody
> > > On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 12:11 +0200, Fco.
Javier Dorado Martínez wrote:
> > > > Hi all
> > > > 
> > > > Cody try to kill all the
festival-synthesis-driver 
> > > processes running 
> > > > in your system and then restarting Orca.
This should work.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Javier.
> > > > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 06:13:08PM
-0400, Cody Hurst wrote:
> > > > > Hi listers,
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I had written an email before
stating that when using Orca, it 
> > > > > would randomly quit taling. I tried
then killing orca, as well as 
> > > > > Festival and then launching orca
agian form the run box. This did 
> > > > > not work. I only get the welcome
message, and no further details, 
> > > > > like where the focus is, usually it
would say "Desktop 
> > > frame" but I 
> > > > > don't even get that. Therefore I
can not use any of the 
> > > functions of 
> > > > > orca. I then killed festival and
orca then tried running 
> > > gnopernicus 
> > > > > and still I get the same results. I
get the welcome message to 
> > > > > gnopernicus but no further
feedback. This forces me to 
> > > power off the 
> > > > > machine manually. Is this a bug in
festival or Fedora core 5? Has 
> > > > > anyone experienced this before.
Orca will bog out 
> > > randomly like say, 
> > > > > when typing a letter, using gaim,
using evolution, etc. 
> > > Why is this 
> > > > > and how can I fix it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cody
> > > > > 
> > > > >
_______________________________________________
> > > > > Orca-list mailing list
> > > > > Orca-listgnome.org 
> > > http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-> list
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
_______________________________________________
> > > 
> > > Orca-list mailing list
> > > Orca-listgnome.org http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Orca-list mailing list
> > Orca-listgnome.org
> > http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Orca-list mailing list
> Orca-listgnome.org
> http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list

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