orca and java access bridge

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I don't know if the problems with the java control panel
existed or not
when previously using an earlier version of the java access
bridge as I
didn't check it then, but the thing to do with shift tab
didn't exist
previously with mathtrax until I updated to the later
version of the JDK
and java access bridge, that is why I thought it might not
be the apps
but rather the java system and java access bridge. If it is
the apps
that are not working properly, could whatever was correcting
this
(correcting as from the user view) in the java access bridge
be done
again.

What is the best way to uninstall the java access bridge
completely so I
can do clean installs of older versions and let you know
what I find
with the different versions of the java access bridge.

From
Michael Whapples
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 18:11 -0700, Lynn MonSanto wrote:
> Michael Whapples wrote:
> > Here are some apps where this shift tab problem
exists:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Sorry to be late getting back to you, but I was out
sick on Thursday
> and Friday. Some Java applications are not well behaved
and don't
> follow the guidelines for keyboard navigation. The
problem is in the
> Java applications, not Orca. 
> 
> The Java Control Panel has some accessibility problems.
I've submitted
> bug reports for a couple. I'll also submit a bug report
for the
> keyboard navigation problems you found.
> 
> Best regards,
> Lynn
> 
> > the java control panel, can't remember the exact
name, but the one
> > suggested on the Orca wiki to test the set up
> > MathTrax1.4
> > I am using JDK 1.6 (the version included in
ubuntu), and java access
> > bridge 1.18 (compiled from source). As I said the
shift problem
> > always seems to exist, just go into the app, try
and shift tab, only
> > tab (or ctrl-tab to go forward works). I don't
remember this on java
> > access bridge 1.4.5 (I think that was the version,
but I think I
> > have also used java access bridge 1.6.0 which I
think was OK as
> > well), but I changed to java access bridge 1.18 at
about the same
> > time I moved to JDK 1.6.
> >  
> > The problem with the keys (eg. when typing in an
edit box) I noticed
> > when trying to use mathtrax, but it may be on
other apps, but this
> > problem is only present sometimes and I am not
sure if there is
> > something particular I am doing first which leads
up to this, so I
> > would be unable to produce this problem
immediately on demand.
> >  
> > Let me know if you need further information.
> >  
> > From
> > Michael Whapples
> >         ----- Original Message ----- 
> >         From: Lynn MonSanto 
> >         To: orca-listgnome.org 
> >         Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:04 PM
> >         Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and java
access bridge
> >         
> >         
> >         Michael Whapples wrote: 
> >         > Hello,
> >         > I noticed the following when using
orca with java
> >         > applications. It seems not to be
possible to use shift-tab
> >         > to go backwards through the controls,
like it is in normal
> >         > gnome apps. I am using orca from CVS
(sometime yesterday,
> >         > but it was the same some time
before), java access bridge
> >         > 1.18 on ubuntu feisty. This problem
always seems to be
> >         > present with my set up, but I don't
remember it when I was
> >         > using an earlier version of java
access bridge.
> >         
> >         Hi Michael,
> >         
> >         Can you give me one or more test cases for
the keyboard
> >         problems you're having with Java
applications. The problems
> >         may be in the Java applications
themselves, since they don't
> >         all comply with the guidelines for
keyboard navigation. They
> >         may also be in the Java Access Bridge or
Orca, but I need to
> >         reproduce the problems in order to find
out.
> >         
> >         I'm currently working on improving Orca
support for Java
> >         applications, so I'd really appreciate bug
reports for any
> >         accessibility problems you find. It's best
for me if you can
> >         give step-by-step instructions for
reproducing the problem,
> >         including the versions of the JDK and Java
applications you
> >         are using.
> >         
> >         Thanks!
> >         Lynn
> >         
> >         
> >         >  
> >         > I have also noticed another problem
with orca and java,
> >         > but this is less reproduceable.
Sometimes it seems that
> >         > certain keypresses aren't taken by
the app. This happens
> >         > sometimes and does not seem
predictable when it will
> >         > happen, and was present even with
other versions of the
> >         > java access bridge.
> >         >  
> >         > I know that on the orca wiki there is
a comment about a
> >         > bug with java access bridge 1.18, but
it didn't seem to
> >         > have any connection to what I have
just described. I also
> >         > haven't submitted this as a bug, as I
don't know if orca
> >         > or the java access bridge is really
to blame. So has
> >         > anyone else found this, and know of
any solution or can
> >         > anyone prove which is at fault?
> >         >  
> >         > From
> >         > Michael Whapples
> >         > 
> >         >
__________________________________________________________
> >         > 
> >         >
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> >         > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca
 for more information on Orca
> >         >   
> >         
> 

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I don't know if the problems with the java control panel existed or not
when previously using an earlier version of the java access bridge as I
didn't check it then, but the thing to do with shift tab didn't exist
previously with mathtrax until I updated to the later version of the JDK
and java access bridge, that is why I thought it might not be the apps
but rather the java system and java access bridge. If it is the apps
that are not working properly, could whatever was correcting this
(correcting as from the user view) in the java access bridge be done
again.

What is the best way to uninstall the java access bridge completely so I
can do clean installs of older versions and let you know what I find
with the different versions of the java access bridge.

From
Michael Whapples
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 18:11 -0700, Lynn MonSanto wrote:

Michael Whapples wrote:

Here are some apps where this shift tab problem exists:

Michael,

Sorry to be late getting back to you, but I was out sick on Thursday
and Friday. Some Java applications are not well behaved and don't
follow the guidelines for keyboard navigation. The problem is in the
Java applications, not Orca. 

The Java Control Panel has some accessibility problems. I've submitted

bug reports for a couple. I'll also submit a bug report for the
keyboard navigation problems you found.

Best regards,
Lynn

the java control panel, can't remember the exact name, but the one
suggested on the Orca wiki to test the set up
MathTrax1.4
I am using JDK 1.6 (the version included in ubuntu), and java access
bridge 1.18 (compiled from source). As I said the shift problem
always seems to exist, just go into the app, try and shift tab, only
tab (or ctrl-tab to go forward works). I don't remember this on java
access bridge 1.4.5 (I think that was the version, but I think I
have also used java access bridge 1.6.0 which I think was OK as
well), but I changed to java access bridge 1.18 at about the same
time I moved to JDK 1.6.

The problem with the keys (eg. when typing in an edit box) I noticed
when trying to use mathtrax, but it may be on other apps, but this
problem is only present sometimes and I am not sure if there is
something particular I am doing first which leads up to this, so I
would be unable to produce this problem immediately on demand.

Let me know if you need further information.

From
Michael Whapples
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lynn MonSanto 
        To: gnome.org">orca-listgnome.org 
        Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:04 PM
        Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and java access bridge

        Michael Whapples wrote: 
        > Hello,
        > I noticed the following when using orca with java
        > applications. It seems not to be possible to use shift-tab

        > to go backwards through the controls, like it is in normal
        > gnome apps. I am using orca from CVS (sometime yesterday,
        > but it was the same some time before), java access bridge
        > 1.18 on ubuntu feisty. This problem always seems to be
        > present with my set up, but I don't remember it when I was
        > using an earlier version of java access bridge.

        Hi Michael,

        Can you give me one or more test cases for the keyboard
        problems you're having with Java applications. The problems
        may be in the Java applications themselves, since they don't
        all comply with the guidelines for keyboard navigation. They
        may also be in the Java Access Bridge or Orca, but I need to
        reproduce the problems in order to find out.

        I'm currently working on improving Orca support for Java
        applications, so I'd really appreciate bug reports for any
        accessibility problems you find. It's best for me if you can
        give step-by-step instructions for reproducing the problem,
        including the versions of the JDK and Java applications you
        are using.

        Thanks!
        Lynn

        >  
        > I have also noticed another problem with orca and java,
        > but this is less reproduceable. Sometimes it seems that
        > certain keypresses aren't taken by the app. This happens
        > sometimes and does not seem predictable when it will
        > happen, and was present even with other versions of the
        > java access bridge.
        >  
        > I know that on the orca wiki there is a comment about a
        > bug with java access bridge 1.18, but it didn't seem to
        > have any connection to what I have just described. I also
        > haven't submitted this as a bug, as I don't know if orca
        > or the java access bridge is really to blame. So has
        > anyone else found this, and know of any solution or can
        > anyone prove which is at fault?
        >  
        > From
        > Michael Whapples
        > 
        > __________________________________________________________
        > 
        > _______________________________________________
        > Orca-list mailing list
        > gnome.org">Orca-listgnome.org
        > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
        > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca
        >   

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I don't know if the problems with the java control panel existed or not
when previously using an earlier version of the java access bridge as I
didn't check it then, but the thing to do with shift tab didn't exist
previously with mathtrax until I updated to the later version of the JDK
and java access bridge, that is why I thought it might not be the apps
but rather the java system and java access bridge. If it is the apps
that are not working properly, could whatever was correcting this
(correcting as from the user view) in the java access bridge be done
again.

What is the best way to uninstall the java access bridge completely so I
can do clean installs of older versions and let you know what I find
with the different versions of the java access bridge.

From
Michael Whapples
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 18:11 -0700, Lynn MonSanto wrote:

Michael Whapples wrote:

Here are some apps where this shift tab problem exists:

Michael,

Sorry to be late getting back to you, but I was out sick on Thursday
and Friday. Some Java applications are not well behaved and don't
follow the guidelines for keyboard navigation. The problem is in the
Java applications, not Orca. 

The Java Control Panel has some accessibility problems. I've submitted

bug reports for a couple. I'll also submit a bug report for the
keyboard navigation problems you found.

Best regards,
Lynn

the java control panel, can't remember the exact name, but the one
suggested on the Orca wiki to test the set up
MathTrax1.4
I am using JDK 1.6 (the version included in ubuntu), and java access
bridge 1.18 (compiled from source). As I said the shift problem
always seems to exist, just go into the app, try and shift tab, only
tab (or ctrl-tab to go forward works). I don't remember this on java
access bridge 1.4.5 (I think that was the version, but I think I
have also used java access bridge 1.6.0 which I think was OK as
well), but I changed to java access bridge 1.18 at about the same
time I moved to JDK 1.6.

The problem with the keys (eg. when typing in an edit box) I noticed
when trying to use mathtrax, but it may be on other apps, but this
problem is only present sometimes and I am not sure if there is
something particular I am doing first which leads up to this, so I
would be unable to produce this problem immediately on demand.

Let me know if you need further information.

From
Michael Whapples
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Lynn MonSanto 
        To: gnome.org">orca-listgnome.org 
        Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:04 PM
        Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and java access bridge

        Michael Whapples wrote: 
        > Hello,
        > I noticed the following when using orca with java
        > applications. It seems not to be possible to use shift-tab

        > to go backwards through the controls, like it is in normal
        > gnome apps. I am using orca from CVS (sometime yesterday,
        > but it was the same some time before), java access bridge
        > 1.18 on ubuntu feisty. This problem always seems to be
        > present with my set up, but I don't remember it when I was
        > using an earlier version of java access bridge.

        Hi Michael,

        Can you give me one or more test cases for the keyboard
        problems you're having with Java applications. The problems
        may be in the Java applications themselves, since they don't
        all comply with the guidelines for keyboard navigation. They
        may also be in the Java Access Bridge or Orca, but I need to
        reproduce the problems in order to find out.

        I'm currently working on improving Orca support for Java
        applications, so I'd really appreciate bug reports for any
        accessibility problems you find. It's best for me if you can
        give step-by-step instructions for reproducing the problem,
        including the versions of the JDK and Java applications you
        are using.

        Thanks!
        Lynn

        >  
        > I have also noticed another problem with orca and java,
        > but this is less reproduceable. Sometimes it seems that
        > certain keypresses aren't taken by the app. This happens
        > sometimes and does not seem predictable when it will
        > happen, and was present even with other versions of the
        > java access bridge.
        >  
        > I know that on the orca wiki there is a comment about a
        > bug with java access bridge 1.18, but it didn't seem to
        > have any connection to what I have just described. I also
        > haven't submitted this as a bug, as I don't know if orca
        > or the java access bridge is really to blame. So has
        > anyone else found this, and know of any solution or can
        > anyone prove which is at fault?
        >  
        > From
        > Michael Whapples
        > 
        > __________________________________________________________
        > 
        > _______________________________________________
        > Orca-list mailing list
        > gnome.org">Orca-listgnome.org
        > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
        > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca
        >   

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