OT, slow IP connection

Hi All,
I am running an update, and the connection is painfully
slow, in my Ubuntu 
7.10.
I read on the web that it is the TCP-stack trying IPv6, when
there is no IP6 
connection available.
Question,
Will my update change this?
Thanks.
Glenn 


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It is more likely to be the choice of Ubuntu package
server.

The default are the US servers, so if you dont live in the
US, you most 
likely wish to modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect
this.

for example I live in the UK, and the first line of my 
/etc/apt/sources.list reads as follows:
deb http://gb.archiv
e.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted

note the gb after the http://
yours would probably be http://us

if you still wish to disable IPV6 then follow these steps:

1. sudo nano -w /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (or your preferred
text editor)
2. Find the line: alias net-pf-10 ipv6
3. Edit this to: alias net-pf-10 off
4. Save the file and reboot

Hope this helps

-Jon
On Fri 07/03/2008 at 17:13:46, Lenny Ervin wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am running an update, and the connection is painfully
slow, in my Ubuntu 
> 7.10.
> I read on the web that it is the TCP-stack trying IPv6,
when there is no IP6 
> connection available.
> Question,
> Will my update change this?
> Thanks.
> Glenn 
> 
> 
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If it is going really slow downloading, then doing ctrl+c
will kill the 
downloads, then you can try the suggestions, and when you
start the 
update again it will continue where it left off.
Do not kill it if it is unpacking and replacing packages
though.

Forgot to mension that you need to do:
sudo apt-get update
after you modify your sources.list.

-Jon
On Fri 07/03/2008 at 17:41:23, Lenny Ervin wrote:
> Hi Jon,
> Looks like it will.
> When my update is done, and I am getting things set up,
I'll try your 
> suggestions.
> Thanks
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon" <j.orcausergooglemail.com>
> To: "Lenny Ervin" <LennyErvincableone.net>
> Cc: <orca-listgnome.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] OT, slow IP connection
> 
> 
> It is more likely to be the choice of Ubuntu package
server.
> 
> The default are the US servers, so if you dont live in
the US, you most
> likely wish to modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to
reflect this.
> 
> for example I live in the UK, and the first line of my
> /etc/apt/sources.list reads as follows:
> deb http://gb.archiv
e.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted
> 
> note the gb after the http://
> yours would probably be http://us
> 
> if you still wish to disable IPV6 then follow these
steps:
> 
> 1. sudo nano -w /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (or your
preferred text editor)
> 2. Find the line: alias net-pf-10 ipv6
> 3. Edit this to: alias net-pf-10 off
> 4. Save the file and reboot
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> -Jon
> On Fri 07/03/2008 at 17:13:46, Lenny Ervin wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I am running an update, and the connection is
painfully slow, in my Ubuntu
> > 7.10.
> > I read on the web that it is the TCP-stack trying
IPv6, when there is no 
> > IP6
> > connection available.
> > Question,
> > Will my update change this?
> > Thanks.
> > Glenn
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Orca-listgnome.org
> > http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca
 for more information on Orca
> 
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If this has anything to do with IPv6, it's likely that your
router is 
trying to act as a DNS proxy and doing a bad job of it.  If
that's the 
case, first, see if the manufacturer of the device has
released updated 
firmware.  If they haven't, and if there's a dumpster behind
your 
building, give it a contribution.  Once you have a real
router, which 
should solve your problem right away, you might consider
getting an IPv6 
connection anyway.  You can go to http://tunnelbroker.net/.  However, you 
will want to use something like edbrowse to sign up.  Please
don't use 
ff3.  Message to follow.

           HTH.


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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Lenny Ervin wrote:

> Hi All,
> I am running an update, and the connection is painfully
slow, in my Ubuntu
> 7.10.
> I read on the web that it is the TCP-stack trying IPv6,
when there is no IP6
> connection available.
> Question,
> Will my update change this?
> Thanks.
> Glenn
>
>
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Dnia 08-03-2008, sob o godzinie 10:15 +0000, Jonathan
Duddington pisze:
> On 08 Mar, Hammer Attila <hammerapickup.hu> wrote:
> > Why not sayd correctly the hungarian translated
simbol if typing the 
> > space character?
> [...]
> Perhaps Orca (or Speech Dispatcher) is asking eSpeak to
speak the name
> of the Space character?

The same problem is in Polish. Speech-dispatcher sends:
<say-as
interpret-as="tts:key">space</say-as>
to eSpeak.

My test:

spd-say -e
!-!CHAR space - produces correct Polish name [[spatsja]]
!-!KEY space - produces incorrect name [[spatse]]

I added the line:

_#32 spatsja

into pl_list, but it's recognized only as character name,
not a key.
Does eSpeak recognize interpret-as="tts:key"
attribute? If it does,
there must be the way to put translations of key names into
xx_list file
(the "space" is very good example, in Polish it
should be pronounced as
"spatsja" when speaking key name, but treated as
English word in plain
text).

Bohdan


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By design IPv6 reverts to IPv4 when no IPv6 connection is
available. It
will not have any impact on the throughput of your
connection. If your
other net connections are performing more or less as
expected, the
culpirt is likely an overloaded, or otherwise encumbered
server at the
other end. The usual remedy is to force the use of a
different server,
but I cannot advise how that's done with apt.

PS: IPv6 is the bomb, but I'd be surprised if you have it,
because one
usually has to intentionally jump through hoops to get it.
What makes
you think you're making an IPv6 connection? What happens
when you do
something like:

ping6 cnn.com

from a terminal?

Janina



Lenny Ervin writes:
> Hi All,
> I am running an update, and the connection is painfully
slow, in my Ubuntu 
> 7.10.
> I read on the web that it is the TCP-stack trying IPv6,
when there is no IP6 
> connection available.
> Question,
> Will my update change this?
> Thanks.
> Glenn 
> 
> 
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> Orca-listgnome.org
> http
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> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca
 for more information on Orca

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On 08 Mar, Bohdan R. Rau <ethanakpolip.com> wrote:
> I added the line:

> _#32 spatsja

> into pl_list, but it's recognized only as character
name, not a key.
> Does eSpeak recognize interpret-as="tts:key"
attribute? 

Yes, but the special names for Space and Tab (_#32 and _#9)
were only
used for "tts:char".  I have now changed eSpeak to
use them for
"tts:key" also.

Try eSpeak version 1.35.01 at:
http://espeak.s
f.net/test/latest.html

Also, please try foreign accented letters are spoken OK, eg
"â".  It
should be able to speak the names of all the alphabetic
characters up
to Unicode U+17F, but perhaps I use the wrong names for the
accent-names.

If anyone has any corrections, please send them to me now.
I hope that the version of eSpeak which is ready by tomorrow
(Sunday)
evening will be used for Ubuntu Hardy.

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Dnia 08-03-2008, sob o godzinie 12:49 +0000, Jonathan
Duddington pisze:
[...]
> > Does eSpeak recognize
interpret-as="tts:key" attribute? 
> 
> Yes, but the special names for Space and Tab (_#32 and
_#9) were only
> used for "tts:char".  I have now changed
eSpeak to use them for
> "tts:key" also.

Nice idea, but speech-dispatcher sends string
"space" as key name, not
#32 character, so it still doesn't work 

> 
> Try eSpeak version 1.35.01 at:
> http://espeak.s
f.net/test/latest.html
> 
> Also, please try foreign accented letters are spoken
OK, eg "â".  It
> should be able to speak the names of all the alphabetic
characters up
> to Unicode U+17F, but perhaps I use the wrong names for
the
> accent-names.

Works a little strange. I provided these characters spelling
in pl_list
(in fact only from ISO-2 range at this time), and now the
"â" is spoken
properly when reading line, but not in character-reading
mode. Is it
possible to get back my "daSEk" instead of
"circumflex"? ;)

> 
> If anyone has any corrections, please send them to me
now.
> I hope that the version of eSpeak which is ready by
tomorrow (Sunday)
> evening will be used for Ubuntu Hardy.

I think you won't be able to include new version of Polish
(pl_rules and
pl_list) files if I'll send it tomorrow? I planned to finish
it in next
week :(

Bohdan


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Not CNN.  Like all of the other big players, they're doing
their best to 
ignore IPv6.  Try: www.isc.org, or www.octothorp.org.  The
first is better 
because they're directly connected.

           HTH.


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On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Janina Sajka wrote:

> By design IPv6 reverts to IPv4 when no IPv6 connection
is available. It
> will not have any impact on the throughput of your
connection. If your
> other net connections are performing more or less as
expected, the
> culpirt is likely an overloaded, or otherwise
encumbered server at the
> other end. The usual remedy is to force the use of a
different server,
> but I cannot advise how that's done with apt.
>
> PS: IPv6 is the bomb, but I'd be surprised if you have
it, because one
> usually has to intentionally jump through hoops to get
it. What makes
> you think you're making an IPv6 connection? What
happens when you do
> something like:
>
> ping6 cnn.com
>
> from a terminal?
>
> Janina
>
>
>
> Lenny Ervin writes:
>> Hi All,
>> I am running an update, and the connection is
painfully slow, in my Ubuntu
>> 7.10.
>> I read on the web that it is the TCP-stack trying
IPv6, when there is no IP6
>> connection available.
>> Question,
>> Will my update change this?
>> Thanks.
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Orca-list mailing list
>> Orca-listgnome.org
>> http
://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca
 for more information on Orca
>
>
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Hi Attila:

If you feel comfortable editing code, try adding a
debug.println line to 
src/orca/gnomespeechfactory.py around line 103:

     def say(self, text):
         if isinstance(text, unicode):
             text = text.encode("UTF-8")
         debug.println(debug.LEVEL_INFO,
"FOO:"+text)
         return self.gnome_speaker.say(text)

Then, uncomment these lines in ~/.orca/user-settings.py
(they are around 
lines 17 for the first and 32 for the second):

orca.debug.debugLevel = orca.debug.LEVEL_INFO
orca.debug.debugFile = open('debug.out', 'w', 0)

Then rebuild/install orca and run it from a command line
prompt, 
conducting a very short test to reproduce the problem. 
Then, send us 
the debug.out file and we can take a look.

Thanks!

Will

Hammer Attila wrote:
> Dear List!
> 
> I am downloaded the espeak 1.35.1 test version in
saturday, installed 
> correctly, but the space character problem is not
solved.
> 
> I am using Orca with gnome-speech driver for espeak,
not speech-dispatcher.
> 
> If pressed the space key my keyboard, espeak sayd
"space", not a 
> hungarian "szóköz" word.
> If moved left or right arrow, espeak sayd correctly
"szóköz" word.
> 
> It is espeak bug? Gnome-speech bug? Orca bug?
> 
> Jonathan, I seed the latest espeak version is
espeak-1.36.zip   09.Mar.2008
> 
> What news this version?
> 
> Attila
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