Orca problems in terminal

Hi All,
I'm having problems with Orca crashing all the time.
It never works now in a terminal window.
I must have messed it up when I logged in as root with sudo
su in a 
terminal, and did:
sudo orca --setup
My intent was to give Orca the ability to run in those apps
like network, or 
gparted, and the like, where Orca never worked because of
being 
administrative apps.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Glenn 


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Hi Lenny:

Strange.  :-(  You might try removing your ~/.orca directory
(making 
sure it's completely gone) and re-doing the Orca setup as
your normal 
login user, not root.

For system administration via Orca, the following URL
contains some 
information that might help you:

http://live.gnome
.org/Orca/SysAdmin

Hope this helps,

Will

Lenny Ervin wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm having problems with Orca crashing all the time.
> It never works now in a terminal window.
> I must have messed it up when I logged in as root with
sudo su in a 
> terminal, and did:
> sudo orca --setup
> My intent was to give Orca the ability to run in those
apps like network, or 
> gparted, and the like, where Orca never worked because
of being 
> administrative apps.
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> Glenn 
> 
> 
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Quick suggestions:

WHen arrowing through a page, I think it makes sense to say
the word "link" 
*before* the anchor text is spoken. This is especially
noticeable when 
reading through a document wiht long anchors; its nice to
know whether a 
phrase is a link sooner than later.  When moving through
links with tab, I'd 
suggest speaking the link announcement *after* the anchor,
since by 
definition, tabbing generally moves among links so we're
already sure its 
either a link or a form control.

I'd imagine that this wouldn't be too hard to fix. Where
might I find this 
code in the sources?

Thanx in advance.
-- Rich

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Hi Rich.

> Quick suggestions:

I'll leave the should we/shouldn't we bit up to the user
community and
our UI guy.

> I'd imagine that this wouldn't be too hard to fix.
Where might I find this 
> code in the sources?

You imagine correctly. <smile> You want to take a look
at
getUtterancesFromContents() in Gecko.py.  It handles
speaking for non
focus related events (like reading a line of text that
contains a link)
whereas our speech generators (a la _getSpeechForLink()) do
it for focus
related events.

I've attached a patch that at least does it for links that
are text.  I
didn't bother to check out links that are something else
(either not
text or multiple roles, like a link that's also a heading). 
I also
didn't test it all that much. <smile>  But it should
help you narrow in
on how you might go about doing what you want to accomplish
(if this
patch doesn't do it).

Hope this helps. Take care.
--Joanie

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Hi, 
> > Quick suggestions:
> 
> I'll leave the should we/shouldn't we bit up to the
user community and
> our UI guy.
We could certailly make the presentation of this kind of
information
user-configurable.  I personally prefer it the way it is but
I'm happy
to have it as an option in the config UI.  Lets wait for a
little more
user feedbak on what the alternate behaviors should be and
then I'll
spec out the new feature after CSUN.  
Mike 


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