-=PCTechTalk=- Up and runnng!

Have my new computer up and running. Everything went
smoothly. Installed 
the RAM, CPU and heatsink ( hope I put enough Arctic Silver)
video card, 
and wired it up. Booted, went into the bios it had already
seen the SATA 
drive. Set it to boot from the CD and loaded Windows right
up. Now I 
need some advice. Should I load the mobo drivers off the CD
or go to the 
Asus site and download the newest ones? How about the bios?
Also, since 
I'm not using RAID, would it be better not to install those
drivers? I 
know we had bad problems with my grandson's box when we
installed them.

Jo Ann
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:03:15 -0500, Jo Ann wrote:
>  ( hope I put enough Arctic Silver)
If you have to ask that, you've probably put in the right
amount. Most people ask if they've put in too much, cause
its spilling over after they squeeze on the heat sink to the
processor.


On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:03:15 -0500, Jo Ann wrote:
>  Should I load the mobo drivers off the CD or go to the
Asus site and download the
>  newest ones? How about the bios?

You might varying opinions. I like to use what came with the
motherboard, only cause its specific to your board and you
know you're not going to accidentally grab the wrong drivers
or such. And, after you use the ones that came with the
retail package, I would not update the BIOS or chipset
drivers unless you have a specific reason to do so...
meaning, there's a feature that needs upgrading that you
need, or you're having problems with something that an
upgrade would fix.

On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:03:15 -0500, Jo Ann wrote:
>  Also, since I'm not using RAID,
>  would it be better not to install those drivers?

If you're not using RAID, and the mobo doesn't require it,
there's no reason to install the RAID drivers.

 
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Sweet!  I love it when a plan comes together.         :O)

I've already seen Troth's reply and have little to add.  He
and I feel 
basically the same way about the BIOS & drivers issues. 
Personally, I will 
check the mainboard's maker occasionally to see what the
newer BIOS versions 
offer.  If there's a fix for something that concerns me,
I'll download and 
run it.  Otherwise, I leave it until I see what the next one
adds.

However, I would like for you to go back into the BIOS and
see where your 
memory timings are set.  If it's set to Auto (most likely
the default), see 
if it also shows the timings it's using.  They'll be grayed
out if they show 
(since it's set to Auto).  If they're not showing, change
the option to 
Manual and see what they say without making any other
changes.  After 
writing them down, change it back to Auto before backing out
of the BIOS (or 
you can just tell the BIOS to discard any changes and
reboot).  I just want 
to make sure you're getting the best performance out of that
high 
performance memory you bought.

Peace,
GMan

"The only dumb questions are the ones that are never
asked!"

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Up and runnng!


> Have my new computer up and running. Everything went
smoothly. Installed
> the RAM, CPU and heatsink ( hope I put enough Arctic
Silver) video card,
> and wired it up. Booted, went into the bios it had
already seen the SATA
> drive. Set it to boot from the CD and loaded Windows
right up. Now I
> need some advice. Should I load the mobo drivers off
the CD or go to the
> Asus site and download the newest ones? How about the
bios? Also, since
> I'm not using RAID, would it be better not to install
those drivers? I
> know we had bad problems with my grandson's box when we
installed them.
>
> Jo Ann 

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GMan,

Everything is set to auto and there seem to be a lot of
settings, here's 
how it reads

tRRd
tRC
tWR
tWTR
tREF
tRD
tRFC
Async Latency

This is greek to me. Which ones should I check and or
change? I notice 
it suggest to set memory timings to optimal.

Jo Ann



GMan wrote:
> Sweet!  I love it when a plan comes together.        
:O)
>
> I've already seen Troth's reply and have little to add.
 He and I feel 
> basically the same way about the BIOS & drivers
issues.  Personally, I will 
> check the mainboard's maker occasionally to see what
the newer BIOS versions 
> offer.  If there's a fix for something that concerns
me, I'll download and 
> run it.  Otherwise, I leave it until I see what the
next one adds.
>
> However, I would like for you to go back into the BIOS
and see where your 
> memory timings are set.  If it's set to Auto (most
likely the default), see 
> if it also shows the timings it's using.  They'll be
grayed out if they show 
> (since it's set to Auto).  If they're not showing,
change the option to 
> Manual and see what they say without making any other
changes.  After 
> writing them down, change it back to Auto before
backing out of the BIOS (or 
> you can just tell the BIOS to discard any changes and
reboot).  I just want 
> to make sure you're getting the best performance out of
that high 
> performance memory you bought.
>
> Peace,
> GMan
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are
never asked!"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jo Ann" <bookworm54tds.net>
> To: <pctechtalkfreelists.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:03 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Up and runnng!
>
>
>   
>> Have my new computer up and running. Everything
went smoothly. Installed
>> the RAM, CPU and heatsink ( hope I put enough
Arctic Silver) video card,
>> and wired it up. Booted, went into the bios it had
already seen the SATA
>> drive. Set it to boot from the CD and loaded
Windows right up. Now I
>> need some advice. Should I load the mobo drivers
off the CD or go to the
>> Asus site and download the newest ones? How about
the bios? Also, since
>> I'm not using RAID, would it be better not to
install those drivers? I
>> know we had bad problems with my grandson's box
when we installed them.
>>
>> Jo Ann 
>>     
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It's OK.  I understand Greek.        d;O}

The RAM you have is easily able to achieve certain timings
that this board 
probably won't use without help.  I was hoping you'd be able
to tell me what 
the settings are right now before we start so I don't have
you doing things 
you don't need to rework.

Peace,
GMan

"The only dumb questions are the ones that are never
asked!"

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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Up and runnng!


> GMan,
>
> Everything is set to auto and there seem to be a lot of
settings, here's
> how it reads
>
> tRRd
> tRC
> tWR
> tWTR
> tREF
> tRD
> tRFC
> Async Latency
>
> This is greek to me. Which ones should I check and or
change? I notice
> it suggest to set memory timings to optimal.
>
> Jo Ann 

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Ok,

I guess the G stands for Greek         I'm
sorry, I can't see how to 
change them from auto to manual. I have CPU-Z installed and
it gives 
some info. Would that help?

Jo Ann


GMan wrote:
> It's OK.  I understand Greek.        d;O}
>
> The RAM you have is easily able to achieve certain
timings that this board 
> probably won't use without help.  I was hoping you'd be
able to tell me what 
> the settings are right now before we start so I don't
have you doing things 
> you don't need to rework.
>
> Peace,
> GMan
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are
never asked!"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jo Ann" <bookworm54tds.net>
> To: <pctechtalkfreelists.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:47 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Up and runnng!
>
>
>   
>> GMan,
>>
>> Everything is set to auto and there seem to be a
lot of settings, here's
>> how it reads
>>
>> tRRd
>> tRC
>> tWR
>> tWTR
>> tREF
>> tRD
>> tRFC
>> Async Latency
>>
>> This is greek to me. Which ones should I check and
or change? I notice
>> it suggest to set memory timings to optimal.
>>
>> Jo Ann 
>>     
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Jo Ann,
    I never fully trust the output that any software gives
about the BIOS 
(it's too far removed from the mainboard to be completely
accurate), but I'd 
still like to know what it's telling you.  The important
parts are the 
timings (the ones you've already typed out to us), the
"T" setting (which 
will show as T1, T2, T2.5, T3, etc.) and the memory or RAM
voltage (which 
will probably be somewhere between 1.8 to 2.8 volts).

    As for changing it to "Manual", when you're at
the page that reports 
that it's set to "Auto", use the arrow keys to
highlight the word "Auto". 
Press the Enter key to bring up the possible options and
then use the arrow 
keys again to highlight "Manual".  Press your ESC
key to return to the full 
page and write down the settings it shows.  When you've
recorded all of 
them, head to the Exit page and choose the option to
"Ignore all changes and 
reboot" or something to that effect.  This will leave
your BIOS exactly the 
way it was before you even entered it.

Peace,
GMan

"The only dumb questions are the ones that are never
asked!"

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Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Up and runnng!


> Ok,
>
> I guess the G stands for Greek         I'm
sorry, I can't see how to
> change them from auto to manual. I have CPU-Z installed
and it gives
> some info. Would that help?
>
> Jo Ann 

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GMan,

When I highlight the auto setting and hit enter, all I get
are numbers 
from 1-15. Don't see anything on voltages here either.

Jo Ann

GMan wrote:
> Jo Ann,
>     I never fully trust the output that any software
gives about the BIOS 
> (it's too far removed from the mainboard to be
completely accurate), but I'd 
> still like to know what it's telling you.  The
important parts are the 
> timings (the ones you've already typed out to us), the
"T" setting (which 
> will show as T1, T2, T2.5, T3, etc.) and the memory or
RAM voltage (which 
> will probably be somewhere between 1.8 to 2.8 volts).
>
>     As for changing it to "Manual", when
you're at the page that reports 
> that it's set to "Auto", use the arrow keys
to highlight the word "Auto". 
> Press the Enter key to bring up the possible options
and then use the arrow 
> keys again to highlight "Manual".  Press your
ESC key to return to the full 
> page and write down the settings it shows.  When you've
recorded all of 
> them, head to the Exit page and choose the option to
"Ignore all changes and 
> reboot" or something to that effect.  This will
leave your BIOS exactly the 
> way it was before you even entered it.
>
> Peace,
> GMan
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are
never asked!"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jo Ann" <bookworm54tds.net>
> To: <pctechtalkfreelists.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:18 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Up and runnng!
>
>
>   
>> Ok,
>>
>> I guess the G stands for Greek         I'm
sorry, I can't see how to
>> change them from auto to manual. I have CPU-Z
installed and it gives
>> some info. Would that help?
>>
>> Jo Ann 
>>     
>
>
>
>
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The voltages are shown in a different page.  I know it's a
hassle to have 
you keep rebooting to go back into the BIOS, but can you
tell me the numbers 
that are shown (along with the setting's name)?

Peace,
GMan

"The only dumb questions are the ones that are never
asked!"

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Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Up and runnng!


> GMan,
>
> When I highlight the auto setting and hit enter, all I
get are numbers
> from 1-15. Don't see anything on voltages here either.
>
> Jo Ann 

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GMan,

The hardware monitor tells me,

Vcore voltage 1.32V
3.3 Voltage 3.39V
5v 4.99V
12V voltage 12.03v

Jo Ann

GMan wrote:
> The voltages are shown in a different page.  I know
it's a hassle to have 
> you keep rebooting to go back into the BIOS, but can
you tell me the numbers 
> that are shown (along with the setting's name)?
>
> Peace,
> GMan
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones that are
never asked!"
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Up and runnng!
>
>
>   
>> GMan,
>>
>> When I highlight the auto setting and hit enter,
all I get are numbers
>> from 1-15. Don't see anything on voltages here
either.
>>
>> Jo Ann 
>>     
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