RE: PCWorks: Who is Lisa Schnepf?

Hugh,

  I'm uninstalling Comodo Antispam. I DO have a life other
than
computers. I have a job and a little girl to take care of. I
don't have
all day to try to figure this out. I'm not as computer
literate as some
of you. You want me gone? Maybe this isn't the right list
for me, after
all. I thought this list was to help people with computer
problems. 

Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pcworksimagicomm.com [mailto:owner-pcworksimagicomm.com]
On Behalf Of Hugh Vandervoort
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:53 AM
To: pcworksimagicomm.com
Subject: Re: PCWorks: Who is Lisa Schnepf?


I propose that Lisa be banned immediately and that all such
future 
incidents get one warning. She hasn't taken any of the very
good advice 
she's received, and appears to be incapable of managing this

Frankenstein program which is clearly a piece of junk.




John O'Flynn wrote:
> Lisa, I just received my first piece of spam from
ComodoAntispam, so 
> now I'm just as mad as everybody else.
> 
> The punchline came at the end of the message:
> "Comodo AntiSpam is completely free. Experience a
100% spam free inbox

> for yourself by visiting  www.comodo.com "
> 
> Well, I had a 100% spam free inbox before you came
along with this 
> Comodo thing.  But I notice that it says "for
yourself".  It doesn't 
> say what happens to everybody else!
> 
> The swine who created this thing is probably off
somewhere giggling 
> over the mess he has got people like you into.  I hope
all the others 
> on this list are taking note of what happens when you
use one of these

> challenge/response filters to "make friends and
influence people".
> 
> And Lisa, in case you haven't actually seen the message
that Mr. 
> Comodo is sending out in YOUR name, it starts like
this: Hi, it's Lisa

> Schnepf. I finally decided I'd had enough of junk mail,
and installed 
> a fantastic application that gets rid of it all.
> Unfortunately, you are not yet in my trusted senders
list!! The only
way
> I'll get your emails is if you follow the steps
outlined below:  . . .
> 
> The irony of this beats anything I've seen for a long
time.
> 
> Well Lisa, the bad news is that I don't want to be in
your trusted 
> senders list and I'm not rising to any bait.  Why don't
you toss that 
> package in the river?  I hope you haven't shelled out
any good money 
> to those animals.  Unfortunately the Web is crawling
with that kind of

> vermin.
> 
> There are people on this list who can help you with
serious 
> suggestions on what to do about spam.  The best I can
come up with is 
> to use multiple addresses and keep a careful record of
who you gave 
> each one to in case one needs to be folded.  But
there's better than 
> that, if you listen to advice.
> 
> John
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Oh Lisa, Lisa. I and others have tried very hard to help
you, and now 
that you're accepting that help we can make some progress.
Nobody wants 
to see you gone, we just want you to stop Spamming us with
your poorly 
designed email program. You may have seen the email
informing you that 
other lists give one warning and you're out. Here, we give
you lots of 
warnings, along with free advice.

I'm quoting a previous email below. If you need any help in
setting up 
this superb program which will solve the SPAM problem
completely, let us 
know. Just be sure to turn on the junk mail option, which is
very 
clearly explained in the instructions.


"I get a lot of email, and virtually no SPAM.
Thunderbird (http://www.
mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/)  has a superb 
SPAM/Junk filter that will solve your problem without any of
this 
hassle. It will also import all your contacts, mail and
settings.
I personally detest NIS, and have removed it every time I've
run into it.
Windows Defender and AVG Free will do the job cheaper and
better."


Lisa Schnepf wrote:
> Hugh,
> 
>   I'm uninstalling Comodo Antispam. I DO have a life
other than
> computers. I have a job and a little girl to take care
of. I don't have
> all day to try to figure this out. I'm not as computer
literate as some
> of you. You want me gone? Maybe this isn't the right
list for me, after
> all. I thought this list was to help people with
computer problems. 
> 
> Lisa
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Lovely Lisa and dear friends of the list:

We have ever keeep in mine the list is to help all uf us.
I have read in silence and patiently many words
interchenged, but any one
really helps to Lisa.

Please, to all the members list: don4t attack among us
Lisa doesn4t need agressions, she needs help and all of us
should do it
Please, stop unnecessary words. She needs a quick and
effective solution,
because she has a big trouble with spam.
I would like help her, but I can4t do it because a main
rason: I know very
little about this matter
Beside, in my country we may not have PCs and Internet,
because it is
prohibited. We just can use the email service where we work,
in some
offices.
Lisa, I know AVG anti spam free version and it is very good
tool. I suggest
use it.
God bless all of you, especially to Lisa and her little
doughter
Good luck!
Jorge Pinckney
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Well Jorge, I'll send you what I sent another member that 
didn't fully grasp the situation since the same applies:
http://www.mail-a
rchive.com/pcworksimagicomm.com/msg12950.html
Please read all the URL's in that post.

There's no "quick and effective solution" for her
problem, and 
unlike you (as per your comment to the fact), I **DO** know

about this matter.  She is NOT alone in her problem with
Spam. 
ALL of us are forced to deal with it, myself probably more
than 
99% of the members here (hence the reason for my 
recommendations for her).

(Just trying to help, again, but I would guess English is
not 
your first language? Spanish or Portuguese your Native 
language?  You can get some free spell checkers for OE, that

appears to be what you're using .
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusCom
puting.com
http://www.Comput
ersCustomBuilt.com
http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics
-Sales.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Pinckney"

Lovely Lisa and dear friends of the list:

We have ever keeep in mine the list is to help all uf us.
I have read in silence and patiently many words
interchenged, 
but any one
really helps to Lisa.

Please, to all the members list: don4t attack among us
Lisa doesn4t need agressions, she needs help and all of us 
should do it
Please, stop unnecessary words. She needs a quick and
effective 
solution,
because she has a big trouble with spam.
I would like help her, but I can4t do it because a main
rason: 
I know very
little about this matter
Beside, in my country we may not have PCs and Internet,
because 
it is
prohibited. We just can use the email service where we work,
in 
some
offices.
Lisa, I know AVG anti spam free version and it is very good

tool. I suggest
use it.
God bless all of you, especially to Lisa and her little 
doughter
Good luck!
Jorge Pinckney
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At 09:15 AM 02/27/2007 -0600, Clint - OrpheusComputing.com
& 
ComputersCustomBuilt.com wrote
>Well Jorge, I'll send you what I sent another member
that
>didn't fully grasp the situation since the same
applies:
>http://www.mail-a
rchive.com/pcworksimagicomm.com/msg12950.html
>Please read all the URL's in that post.

Clint,

Jorge says he can't access the web.

>Beside, in my country we may not have PCs and Internet,
because it is
>prohibited. We just can use the email service where we
work, in some
>offices.

I have several correspondents who do not have web
access...mostly in Africa.

Jorge's English is a whole lot better than my Spanish (or
whatever his 
native language is)!  His spelling is a lot better than many
people I know 
online who live here in the US!  Spell checkers do not check
syntax.  Nor 
do they pick up words like "mine" for
"mind".  We all got the idea of his 
post, and he has more courage than I would at posting on a
list in a 
language I did not speak.  Good job, Jorge, and don't be
afraid to post here.

Sue  
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>Jorge says he can't access the web.

Oh, well, that's different then.  

I know all about "contextual usage's" of words
Sue.  I was not 
referring to "mine" and "mind" (nor
others perhaps like 
"their", "they're" or
"there").  I was referring to things 
like: keeep, interchenged, don4t, doesn4t, agressions,
can4t, 
doughter, etc.

Yes, we all know what he meant and I fully comprehended it
or 
else I would not have been able to reply.    Yes,
his 
structure was better than most English people.  The point
is, 
like Lisa, I was trying to HELP him.  I've been sending 
hundreds of emails per day for many years and posting at
dozens 
of forums for many years, and I have seen many times how 
sometimes simple typos like "teh",
"sicne", "becuase" and the 
like due to usually just trying to type too fast, can be 
erroneously misinterpreted as either a lack of intelligence,

laziness, or some other negative trait.  My suggestion of a

spell checker/typo checker for him was in efforts for him to

AVOID that categorization.

For you Jorge, since you can't get online, here's a synopsis
of 
my conversation with Lisa supporting my comments therein:
--------------
I thought I answered your comment in my original post, but
here
it is again:

"I DO NOT reply to these because these places
blackmail/extort
you into using them.  Once they get your email address,
they
will then start sending YOU various BS (that's Spam)."

Optonline.net is one of the worse USA ISP's as far as Spam
goes.  2nd or 3rd maybe to Comcast, Cogencto and maybe
Verizon.
More UCE comes FROM these ISP's than any other.  I have
been
forced to block more of the latter 3's IP addresses with my
email filters than any other in the USA, that's how bad it
is.

I would tell your ISP you need a new email address from
them,
and if you were careful about your original address, TELL
THEM
this; it's been believed that these aforementioned ISP's
actually SELL their members' email addresses to nefarious
places.

Isn't there a way you can add this list's email address to
some
whitelist?
----------------

Because I'm very busy with hundreds of emails per day and
customers, I can only recall right off hand most of the
most
frequent postees at this list.  After some thought, yes, I
remember you now.  

No one is saying that you are trying to Spam someone on
purpose
Lisa.  But for all of those that continuously receive this
"challenge systems", it can be considered a form
of Spam to the
recipient.

The suggestions I previously gave you is a starting point
(about your ISP).  If you don't have a website, you can get
one
and get it hosted for really cheap.  A domain name (plus
hosting by with whomever you register it) for about $1.99,
but
the hosting may be a bit more.  A domain name for about
$6.95-$8.95, then really GOOD hosting for about $4.95 a
month
(get one that uses the cPanel hosting software).  The
purpose
of that would be your domain would have as many email
addresses
as you wanted, yours to delete and create at will, and
FILTERED
by cPanel's "Email filters" to which you can
create up to 999
email filters blocking anything you chose in the header,
subject, or message body.

I am unfamiliar with how your current Spam system works. 
There
may be a way to add to some whitelist, any emails with this
list's email address in the header.  Like the list's emails
show in the header "reply to: [list's email
address]", so see
if you could possibly add that to a whitelist.  It's
possible
that won't work and you'd have to add all the list members'
addresses which would be a pain.  For more info on that,
you'd
have to contact them, or someone else that uses the same
system.

I never suggested the sender of these emails (you) to be
removed from the list.  My exact words, at the bottom of my
post, were:

"If anyone knows her, please tell her to do something
about it.
Thanks,"

See?  
------------------------

I haven't personally seen anymore of the emails.

It's not a pain.    If you
need any help on domain names and
a site, just ask.
-------------------

As I pointed out, at least from ME; no aggression, no
rudeness, 
no attacks, nothing of the sort.  Only help.

I'm growing tiresome of this entire subject and subsequent 
spawned subjects.  LOL.
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusCom
puting.com
http://www.Comput
ersCustomBuilt.com
http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics
-Sales.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Cubic"

At 09:15 AM 02/27/2007 -0600, Clint - OrpheusComputing.com
&
ComputersCustomBuilt.com wrote
>Well Jorge, I'll send you what I sent another member
that
>didn't fully grasp the situation since the same
applies:
> http://www.mail-a
rchive.com/pcworksimagicomm.com/msg12950.html
>Please read all the URL's in that post.

Clint,

Jorge says he can't access the web.

>Beside, in my country we may not have PCs and Internet,

>because it is
>prohibited. We just can use the email service where we
work, 
>in some
>offices.

I have several correspondents who do not have web 
access...mostly in Africa.

Jorge's English is a whole lot better than my Spanish (or 
whatever his
native language is)!  His spelling is a lot better than many

people I know
online who live here in the US!  Spell checkers do not check

syntax.  Nor
do they pick up words like "mine" for
"mind".  We all got the 
idea of his
post, and he has more courage than I would at posting on a
list 
in a
language I did not speak.  Good job, Jorge, and don't be
afraid 
to post here.

Sue
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Sue and Clint

Jorge lives in Cuba and this is the reason for the
restrictions on what
he can do.  Internet censorship there is possibly the
strictest in the
world.

And as for not being afraid to post here, well, the worst
we'll do to
him is chew his nose if he rubs us the wrong way.  But he'll
have to
decide for himself what to be afraid of at his end.

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Cubic" <scubicearthlink.net>
To: <pcworksimagicomm.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: PCWorks: Jorge's post


> At 09:15 AM 02/27/2007 -0600, Clint -
OrpheusComputing.com &
> ComputersCustomBuilt.com wrote
> >Well Jorge, I'll send you what I sent another
member that
> >didn't fully grasp the situation since the same
applies:
> >http://www.mail-a
rchive.com/pcworksimagicomm.com/msg12950.html
> >Please read all the URL's in that post.
>
> Clint,
>
> Jorge says he can't access the web.
>
> >Beside, in my country we may not have PCs and
Internet, because it is
> >prohibited. We just can use the email service where
we work, in some
> >offices.
>
> I have several correspondents who do not have web
access...mostly in
Africa.
>
> Jorge's English is a whole lot better than my Spanish
(or whatever his
> native language is)!  His spelling is a lot better than
many people I
know
> online who live here in the US!  Spell checkers do not
check syntax.
Nor
> do they pick up words like "mine" for
"mind".  We all got the idea of
his
> post, and he has more courage than I would at posting
on a list in a
> language I did not speak.  Good job, Jorge, and don't
be afraid to
post here.
>
> Sue
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Yeah I knew he was in Cuba from his email address, that's
bad 
over there.  I recently changed email addresses for this
list 
and now I'm able to receive his posts (I was forced to block

most of the LACNIC range of IP addresses on the previous 
address).  So if you need something from a webpage Jorge,
like 
a download or info, just post the info you need and I'm sure

someone can post the direct link or info from a webpage for

you.
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusCom
puting.com
http://www.Comput
ersCustomBuilt.com
http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics
-Sales.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John O'Flynn"

Sue and Clint

Jorge lives in Cuba and this is the reason for the
restrictions 
on what
he can do.  Internet censorship there is possibly the
strictest 
in the
world.

And as for not being afraid to post here, well, the worst
we'll 
do to
him is chew his nose if he rubs us the wrong way.  But he'll

have to
decide for himself what to be afraid of at his end.

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Cubic"

> At 09:15 AM 02/27/2007 -0600, Clint -
OrpheusComputing.com &
> ComputersCustomBuilt.com wrote
> >Well Jorge, I'll send you what I sent another
member that
> >didn't fully grasp the situation since the same
applies:
> > http://www.mail-a
rchive.com/pcworksimagicomm.com/msg12950.html
> >Please read all the URL's in that post.
>
> Clint,
>
> Jorge says he can't access the web.
>
> >Beside, in my country we may not have PCs and
Internet, 
> >because it is
> >prohibited. We just can use the email service where
we work, 
> >in some
> >offices.
>
> I have several correspondents who do not have web 
> access...mostly in
Africa.
>
> Jorge's English is a whole lot better than my Spanish
(or 
> whatever his
> native language is)!  His spelling is a lot better than
many 
> people I
know
> online who live here in the US!  Spell checkers do not
check 
> syntax.
Nor
> do they pick up words like "mine" for
"mind".  We all got the 
> idea of
his
> post, and he has more courage than I would at posting
on a 
> list in a
> language I did not speak.  Good job, Jorge, and don't
be 
> afraid to
post here.
>
> Sue
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