PCWorks: Avg Free or Avast Free

Hello again (using Win XP),

Following your discussion, now is the moment of decision and
I'm faced with
Avg Free and Avast Free. I've been using Avg with no
apparent harm to the
computer nor am I sure it does any good. It's just there in
my sys tray
upgrading every once in a while and that's it. What's the
consensus in the
group? Is it Avg or Avast? Or should I do neither and remove
ZoneAlarm and as
Hugh once suggested, use Windows Defender to do the job of
both? Right now I
have Avg, ZoneAlarm, Windows Defender, Ad-aware, and Spybot.
In matters of
health, my computer is better protected than I am. ---
Harold
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Hi Harold,

The Avg free is fine.  I tried both Avg and Avast and liked
the Avg better.
The thing Clint and I and others have been talking about is
the Avg
anti-spyware not the A/V.  I've discovered you can't write
the word vi*us on
this list or the mail doesn't ever go through.  

Zone Alarm's principle function is as a firewall.  I would
not stop using
it.   

I haven't tried Windows defender but that's a personal
thing.  I will not
use any more Microsoft software than I have to.  

Ben Moore 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pcworksimagicomm.com [mailto:owner-pcworksimagicomm.com] On
Behalf Of Harold B.
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:20 PM
To: PC Works_LIST
Subject: PCWorks: Avg Free or Avast Free

Hello again (using Win XP),

Following your discussion, now is the moment of decision and
I'm faced with
Avg Free and Avast Free. I've been using Avg with no
apparent harm to the
computer nor am I sure it does any good. It's just there in
my sys tray
upgrading every once in a while and that's it. What's the
consensus in the
group? Is it Avg or Avast? Or should I do neither and remove
ZoneAlarm and
as
Hugh once suggested, use Windows Defender to do the job of
both? Right now I
have Avg, ZoneAlarm, Windows Defender, Ad-aware, and Spybot.
In matters of
health, my computer is better protected than I am. ---
Harold
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I've used AVG for several years without a virus of any kind.
I've 
installed it on many other computers, and they've never had
a virus. It 
consistently gets high ratings.
Some speak highly of Avast, but I've only used it briefly.
Windows defender  does a good job, and should be on every
computer that 
uses the 'net, but you also need a second anti-spyware, so I
use Ad 
Aware weekly, and have installed the immunize feature of
Spybot.
I spend a lot of time on the web, and have no,none, nada
problemas.
That said, I regularly help a young man who's fond of porn,
and the 
other problems I see come from the cheezier online games.
Use the above programs, keep your system updated, get your
porn from 
newsgroups and stay away from no-name games and you'll be as
safe as 
it's possible to be.
AVG has a log (Test Center/Test Results) and a virus vault,
so you can 
always check up on what it's been doing.




Harold B. wrote:
> Hello again (using Win XP),
> 
> Following your discussion, now is the moment of
decision and I'm faced with
> Avg Free and Avast Free. I've been using Avg with no
apparent harm to the
> computer nor am I sure it does any good. It's just
there in my sys tray
> upgrading every once in a while and that's it. What's
the consensus in the
> group? Is it Avg or Avast? Or should I do neither and
remove ZoneAlarm and as
> Hugh once suggested, use Windows Defender to do the job
of both? Right now I
> have Avg, ZoneAlarm, Windows Defender, Ad-aware, and
Spybot. In matters of
> health, my computer is better protected than I am. ---
Harold
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I've used AVG, Avast!, and now NOD32 mainly for it's speed
in updating 
and scanning with the highest success rate around.

For the firewall I use Zonealarm which replaced Sygate which
got bought 
up by Symantec and I will not use any bloated software from
Symantec.

I use Ad-aware monthly, though the only things I have is
malicious cookies.

I use a giant HOSTS file to block many malicious sites,
ad-ware sites, etc.

I'm switching to Ubuntu this weekend so I won't need AVG,
Avast!, NOD32, 
or any ad-ware scanners.

Also I never use IE, OE, MSN, Yahoo, MS office, or WMP. I
leave those to 
my clients.

I'm on the web a lot, not as much as 5 years ago but it
still takes up a 
lot of time.

Peter Kaulback

Harold B. wrote:
> Hello again (using Win XP),
> 
> Following your discussion, now is the moment of
decision and I'm faced with
> Avg Free and Avast Free. I've been using Avg with no
apparent harm to the
> computer nor am I sure it does any good. It's just
there in my sys tray
> upgrading every once in a while and that's it. What's
the consensus in the
> group? Is it Avg or Avast? Or should I do neither and
remove ZoneAlarm and as
> Hugh once suggested, use Windows Defender to do the job
of both? Right now I
> have Avg, ZoneAlarm, Windows Defender, Ad-aware, and
Spybot. In matters of
> health, my computer is better protected than I am. ---
Harold
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I've used AVG for several years without a vi*us of any kind.
I've 
installed it on many other computers, and they've never had
a vi*us. It 
consistently gets high ratings.
Some speak highly of Avast, but I've only used it briefly.
Windows defender  does a good job, and should be on every
computer that 
uses the 'net, but you also need a second anti-spyware, so I
use Ad 
Aware weekly, and have installed the immunize feature of
Spybot.
I spend a lot of time on the web, and have no,none, nada
problemas.
That said, I regularly help a young man who's fond of porn,
and the 
other problems I see come from the cheezier online games.
Use the above programs, keep your system updated, get your
porn from 
newsgroups and stay away from no-name games and you'll be as
safe as 
it's possible to be.
AVG has a log (Test Center/Test Results) and a vi*us vault,
so you can 
always check up on what it's been doing.




Harold B. wrote:
 > Hello again (using Win XP),
 >
 > Following your discussion, now is the moment of
decision and I'm 
faced with
 > Avg Free and Avast Free. I've been using Avg with no
apparent harm to the
 > computer nor am I sure it does any good. It's just
there in my sys tray
 > upgrading every once in a while and that's it. What's
the consensus 
in the
 > group? Is it Avg or Avast? Or should I do neither and
remove 
ZoneAlarm and as
 > Hugh once suggested, use Windows Defender to do the
job of both? 
Right now I
 > have Avg, ZoneAlarm, Windows Defender, Ad-aware, and
Spybot. In 
matters of
 > health, my computer is better protected than I am. ---
Harold
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So, you're saying that If I write, "Virus", this
email won't go through?
How about virus without quotes?
Bizarre.

Ben Moore wrote:
> Hi Harold,
> 
> The Avg free is fine.  I tried both Avg and Avast and
liked the Avg better.
> The thing Clint and I and others have been talking
about is the Avg
> anti-spyware not the A/V.  I've discovered you can't
write the word vi*us on
> this list or the mail doesn't ever go through.  
> 
> Zone Alarm's principle function is as a firewall.  I
would not stop using
> it.   
> 
> I haven't tried Windows defender but that's a personal
thing.  I will not
> use any more Microsoft software than I have to.  
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I guess I'm mistaken, Hugh.  Every once in a while I write
an email to this
list that never appears.  I go back and look at what I sent
and to make sure
I deleted the PC works tag and all seems ok. But, the
missing mail always
seems to contain the word... ok I'll say it... virus. I
always thought that
was pretty silly blocking the word virus as if any self
respecting virus
would label itself.  Then I saw someone else using the vi*us
approach and
seemed to recall somewhere a discussion that there were
words that would
cause the list to block an email.   

Boy do I feel liberated now.  Virus, virus, virus, virus ...


Ben Moore

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pcworksimagicomm.com [mailto:owner-pcworksimagicomm.com] On
Behalf Of Hugh Vandervoort
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 12:20 AM
To: pcworksimagicomm.com
Subject: Re: PCWorks: Avg Free or Avast Free

So, you're saying that If I write, "Virus", this
email won't go through?
How about virus without quotes?
Bizarre.

Ben Moore wrote:
> Hi Harold,
> 
> The Avg free is fine.  I tried both Avg and Avast and
liked the Avg
better.
> The thing Clint and I and others have been talking
about is the Avg
> anti-spyware not the A/V.  I've discovered you can't
write the word vi*us
on
> this list or the mail doesn't ever go through.  
> 
> Zone Alarm's principle function is as a firewall.  I
would not stop using
> it.   
> 
> I haven't tried Windows defender but that's a personal
thing.  I will not
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Ben Moore wrote:
> I guess I'm mistaken, Hugh.  Every once in a while I
write an email to this
> list that never appears.  I go back and look at what I
sent and to make sure
> I deleted the PC works tag and all seems ok. But, the
missing mail always
> seems to contain the word... ok I'll say it... virus. I
always thought that
> was pretty silly blocking the word virus as if any self
respecting virus
> would label itself.  Then I saw someone else using the
vi*us approach and
> seemed to recall somewhere a discussion that there were
words that would
> cause the list to block an email.   
>
> Boy do I feel liberated now.  Virus, virus, virus,
virus ... 
>
> Ben Moore
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pcworksimagicomm.com
[mailto:owner-pcworksimagicomm.com] On
> Behalf Of Hugh Vandervoort
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 12:20 AM
> To: pcworksimagicomm.com
> Subject: Re: PCWorks: Avg Free or Avast Free
>
> So, you're saying that If I write, "Virus",
this email won't go through?
> How about virus without quotes?
> Bizarre.
>
>   
Greetings All

The word virus was flagged at one time because the list was
a target for 
those stupid false virus reports.   It was removed many
moons ago.  Come 
to think of it, I haven't seen one of those things for quite
a while, 
any one else seen one lately?

Phill
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It's something else and it also happens to me (messages
never 
showing up).  They also don't show in the archives.  Then
other 
times, they'll SHOW in the archives but never to the list. 
Still other times they will go to the list, but never show
in 
the archives!
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusCom
puting.com
http://www.Comput
ersCustomBuilt.com
http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics
-Sales.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Moore"

I guess I'm mistaken, Hugh.  Every once in a while I write
an 
email to this
list that never appears.  I go back and look at what I sent
and 
to make sure
I deleted the PC works tag and all seems ok. But, the
missing 
mail always
seems to contain the word... ok I'll say it... virus. I
always 
thought that
was pretty silly blocking the word virus as if any self 
respecting virus
would label itself.  Then I saw someone else using the vi*us

approach and
seemed to recall somewhere a discussion that there were
words 
that would
cause the list to block an email.

Boy do I feel liberated now.  Virus, virus, virus, virus ...



Ben Moore
through?
How about virus without quotes?
Bizarre.

Ben Moore wrote:
> Hi Harold,
>
> The Avg free is fine.  I tried both Avg and Avast and
liked 
> the Avg
better.
> The thing Clint and I and others have been talking
about is 
> the Avg
> anti-spyware not the A/V.  I've discovered you can't
write 
> the word vi*us
on
> this list or the mail doesn't ever go through.
>
> Zone Alarm's principle function is as a firewall.  I
would 
> not stop using
> it.
>
> I haven't tried Windows defender but that's a personal
thing. 
> I will not
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Just some FYI, I've been using Sygate Pro 5.5 for years and

it's not bloated.  Symantec didn't change Sygate's core or 
software package to make it more bloated.  Now if they are 
making NEW Sygate products, then that may be a different
story.
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusCom
puting.com
http://www.Comput
ersCustomBuilt.com
http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics
-Sales.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Kaulback"

I've used AVG, Avast!, and now NOD32 mainly for it's speed
in 
updating
and scanning with the highest success rate around.

For the firewall I use Zonealarm which replaced Sygate which

got bought
up by Symantec and I will not use any bloated software from

Symantec.

I use Ad-aware monthly, though the only things I have is 
malicious cookies.

I use a giant HOSTS file to block many malicious sites,
ad-ware 
sites, etc.

I'm switching to Ubuntu this weekend so I won't need AVG, 
Avast!, NOD32,
or any ad-ware scanners.

Also I never use IE, OE, MSN, Yahoo, MS office, or WMP. I
leave 
those to
my clients.

I'm on the web a lot, not as much as 5 years ago but it
still 
takes up a
lot of time.

Peter Kaulback

Harold B. wrote:
> Hello again (using Win XP),
>
> Following your discussion, now is the moment of
decision and 
> I'm faced with
> Avg Free and Avast Free. I've been using Avg with no
apparent 
> harm to the
> computer nor am I sure it does any good. It's just
there in 
> my sys tray
> upgrading every once in a while and that's it. What's
the 
> consensus in the
> group? Is it Avg or Avast? Or should I do neither and
remove 
> ZoneAlarm and as
> Hugh once suggested, use Windows Defender to do the job
of 
> both? Right now I
> have Avg, ZoneAlarm, Windows Defender, Ad-aware, and
Spybot. 
> In matters of
> health, my computer is better protected than I am. ---
Harold
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