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| RE: PDT 1.0 |
  Israel |
2007-03-29 06:01:47 |
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Hi Thomas and Dave,
Since the project is in incubation it’s possible to
have IP issues as part of the build. Once I call it 0.7 it’s like
ignoring Eclipse process and declaring the release by myself which I’m
sure is not acceptable by Eclipse.org.
The latest integration from Feb 26 is the most stable and
relevant version.
What do you suggest?
From:
pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Thomas M. Ose
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007
12:49 PM
To: 'PDT Developers'
Subject: RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
Yossi,
I would have to agree with Dave that we
need a base release to bring everyone to the same playing field, even if it is
stable release of the last integration build and call it 0.7
Thomas
M. Ose
Ose Micro Solutions, Inc.
From:
pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Dave Kelsey
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007
6:14 AM
To: PDT Developers
Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
Yossi, I think you need to release a 0.7 version. Currently there are
users on Rc2, others on various integration builds and I think it would be
better to have a single version that all users download and report on until 1.0
is delivered. It will be confusing for both users and developers if there are
multiple versions.
Regards
Dave Kelsey
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[pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
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Hi All,
I
would like to share with you the thoughts regarding PDT 1.0 as you can see
below.
If you
find any reason not to skip 0.7 and to move forward with 1.0, please let us
know.
Thanks,
--
Yossi Leon
Product Manager, Development Tools
& PDT Project Leader
yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/ +1-212-645-0040
http://blogs.zend.com/author/yossi/
From:
tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Yossi Leon
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:51 AM
To: Tools PMC mailing list
Cc: Sharon Corbett
Subject: [tools-pmc] PDT 1.0
Hi
All,
PDT 0.7
was scheduled to be planned for the end February 2007. Due to IP issues that
are now being investigated the release was postponed.
The
roadmap is to have PDT 1.0 on September 2007 which contains mainly stability
and few enhancements comparing to PDT 0.7.
I
would like to propose not to wait for the IP approval and for the release of
0.7 and to move forward toward 1.0 (without any release of 0.7) and start
providing builds for that version ASAP.
Please
let me know if this is acceptable.
Thanks,
--
Yossi Leon
Product Manager, Development Tools
& PDT Project Leader
yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/ +1-212-645-0040
http://blogs.zend.com/author/yossi/
--
Yossi Leon
Product Manager, Development Tools
& PDT Project Leader
yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/ +1-212-645-0040
http://blogs.zend.com/author/yossi/
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| Re: PDT 1.0 |
  Netherlands |
2007-03-29 06:52:53 |
Hi,
If it stalls the development beyond 0.7 i agree with Yossi
and say drop
the 0.7 release altogether and keep going. Between now and
release of
1.0 anyone using in-between builds should be advised to use
the latest
integration build or wait until 1.0 release.
If it helps letting people update to that particular (most
recent)
integration build, maybe you should call it the latest rc
for 0.7 or
whatever, stating the ip issues as known issues. After all,
what's in a
name, right?
just my 2c
Yossi Leon wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas and Dave,
>
> Since the project is in incubation it’s possible to
have IP issues as
> part of the build. Once I call it 0.7 it’s like
ignoring Eclipse
> process and declaring the release by myself which I’m
sure is not
> acceptable by Eclipse.org.
>
> The latest integration from Feb 26 is the most stable
and relevant
> version.
>
> What do you suggest?
>
> --
> *Yossi Leon*
>
> Product Manager, Development Tools
>
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
>
>
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>
> *From
pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
> [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of
*Thomas M. Ose
> *Sent Thursday,
March 29, 2007 12:49 PM
> *To 'PDT
Developers'
> *Subject RE:
[pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
>
> Yossi,
>
> I would have to agree with Dave that we need a base
release to bring
> everyone to the same playing field, even if it is
stable release of
> the last integration build and call it 0.7
>
>
> /*/Thomas M. Ose/*/
> Ose Micro Solutions, Inc.
>
>
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> *From
pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
> [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of
*Dave Kelsey
> *Sent Thursday,
March 29, 2007 6:14 AM
> *To PDT
Developers
> *Subject Re:
[pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
>
>
> Yossi, I think you need to release a 0.7 version.
Currently there are
> users on Rc2, others on various integration builds and
I think it
> would be better to have a single version that all users
download and
> report on until 1.0 is delivered. It will be confusing
for both users
> and developers if there are multiple versions.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Kelsey
>
> *"Yossi Leon" <yossi zend.com>*
> Sent by: pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
>
> 28/03/2007 23:01
>
> Please respond to
> PDT Developers <pdt-dev eclipse.org>
>
>
>
> To
>
>
>
> <pdt-dev eclipse.org>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
>
>
>
> [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to share with you the thoughts regarding
PDT 1.0 as you
> can see below.
>
> If you find any reason not to skip 0.7 and to move
forward with 1.0,
> please let us know.
>
> Thanks,
> --*
> Yossi Leon*
> Product Manager, Development Tools
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
>
>
>
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>
>
> *From
tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org
> [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of
*Yossi Leon*
> Sent Monday,
March 26, 2007 9:51 AM*
> To
Tools PMC mailing list*
> Cc
Sharon Corbett*
> Subject [tools-pmc]
PDT 1.0
>
> Hi All,
>
> PDT 0.7 was scheduled to be planned for the end
February 2007. Due to
> IP issues that are now being investigated the release
was postponed.
> The roadmap is to have PDT 1.0 on September 2007 which
contains mainly
> stability and few enhancements comparing to PDT 0.7.
>
> I would like to propose not to wait for the IP approval
and for the
> release of 0.7 and to move forward toward 1.0 (without
any release of
> 0.7) and start providing builds for that version ASAP.
>
> Please let me know if this is acceptable.
>
> Thanks,
> --*
> Yossi Leon*
> Product Manager, Development Tools
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
>
>
>
> --*
> Yossi Leon*
> Product Manager, Development Tools
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
> _______________________________________________
> pdt-dev mailing list
> pdt-dev eclipse.org
> http
s://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev
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| RE: PDT 1.0 |
  United States |
2007-03-29 07:50:45 |
Name or Version really does not make a difference as long as
we can move
forward. What is needed first is a new stable build based
on the
incremental build and call it whatever.
Thomas M. Ose
Ose Micro Solutions, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] On
Behalf Of drm
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:53 AM
To: PDT Developers
Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
Hi,
If it stalls the development beyond 0.7 i agree with Yossi
and say drop
the 0.7 release altogether and keep going. Between now and
release of
1.0 anyone using in-between builds should be advised to use
the latest
integration build or wait until 1.0 release.
If it helps letting people update to that particular (most
recent)
integration build, maybe you should call it the latest rc
for 0.7 or
whatever, stating the ip issues as known issues. After all,
what's in a
name, right?
just my 2c
Yossi Leon wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas and Dave,
>
> Since the project is in incubation it's possible to
have IP issues as
> part of the build. Once I call it 0.7 it's like
ignoring Eclipse
> process and declaring the release by myself which I'm
sure is not
> acceptable by Eclipse.org.
>
> The latest integration from Feb 26 is the most stable
and relevant
> version.
>
> What do you suggest?
>
> --
> *Yossi Leon*
>
> Product Manager, Development Tools
>
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
>
>
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>
> *From
pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
> [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of
*Thomas M. Ose
> *Sent Thursday,
March 29, 2007 12:49 PM
> *To 'PDT
Developers'
> *Subject RE:
[pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
>
> Yossi,
>
> I would have to agree with Dave that we need a base
release to bring
> everyone to the same playing field, even if it is
stable release of
> the last integration build and call it 0.7
>
>
> /*/Thomas M. Ose/*/
> Ose Micro Solutions, Inc.
>
>
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>
> *From
pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
> [mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of
*Dave Kelsey
> *Sent Thursday,
March 29, 2007 6:14 AM
> *To PDT
Developers
> *Subject Re:
[pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
>
>
> Yossi, I think you need to release a 0.7 version.
Currently there are
> users on Rc2, others on various integration builds and
I think it
> would be better to have a single version that all users
download and
> report on until 1.0 is delivered. It will be confusing
for both users
> and developers if there are multiple versions.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Kelsey
>
> *"Yossi Leon" <yossi zend.com>*
> Sent by: pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
>
> 28/03/2007 23:01
>
> Please respond to
> PDT Developers <pdt-dev eclipse.org>
>
>
>
> To
>
>
>
> <pdt-dev eclipse.org>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
>
>
>
> [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to share with you the thoughts regarding
PDT 1.0 as you
> can see below.
>
> If you find any reason not to skip 0.7 and to move
forward with 1.0,
> please let us know.
>
> Thanks,
> --*
> Yossi Leon*
> Product Manager, Development Tools
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
>
>
>
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>
>
> *From
tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org
> [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of
*Yossi Leon*
> Sent Monday,
March 26, 2007 9:51 AM*
> To
Tools PMC mailing list*
> Cc
Sharon Corbett*
> Subject [tools-pmc]
PDT 1.0
>
> Hi All,
>
> PDT 0.7 was scheduled to be planned for the end
February 2007. Due to
> IP issues that are now being investigated the release
was postponed.
> The roadmap is to have PDT 1.0 on September 2007 which
contains mainly
> stability and few enhancements comparing to PDT 0.7.
>
> I would like to propose not to wait for the IP approval
and for the
> release of 0.7 and to move forward toward 1.0 (without
any release of
> 0.7) and start providing builds for that version ASAP.
>
> Please let me know if this is acceptable.
>
> Thanks,
> --*
> Yossi Leon*
> Product Manager, Development Tools
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
>
>
>
> --*
> Yossi Leon*
> Product Manager, Development Tools
> & PDT Project Leader
> yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
>
> http://blogs.zend
.com/author/yossi/
> _______________________________________________
> pdt-dev mailing list
> pdt-dev eclipse.org
> http
s://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev
>
>
>
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>
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| RE: PDT 1.0 |
  United States |
2007-03-29 08:26:56 |
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I am a little surprised to hear that
you could create an integration build and make it publically available
without dealing with the legal issues. If you are able to release integration
builds publically like this to avoid legal issues then why can't you release
a stable build in the same way ?
I am guessing that the integration builds
since rc2 release contained the code that has not be approved yet. Would
it not be better to remove the integration builds from public download
and stick with rc2 for now ?
Dave Kelsey
"Yossi Leon"
<yossi zend.com>
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29/03/2007 12:01
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Developers" <pdt-dev eclipse.org>
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RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0 | |
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Hi Thomas and Dave,
Since the project is in incubation it’s
possible to have IP issues as part of the build. Once I call it 0.7 it’s
like ignoring Eclipse process and declaring the release by myself which
I8217;m sure is not acceptable by Eclipse.org.
The latest integration from Feb 26 is the
most stable and relevant version.
What do you suggest?
--
Yossi Leon
Product Manager, Development Tools
& PDT Project Leader
yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
http://blogs.zend.com/author/yossi/
From: pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
[mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Thomas M. Ose
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:49 PM
To: 'PDT Developers'
Subject: RE: [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
Yossi,
I would have to agree with
Dave that we need a base release to bring everyone to the same playing
field, even if it is stable release of the last integration build and call
it 0.7
Thomas M. Ose
Ose Micro Solutions, Inc.
From: pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
[mailto:pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Dave Kelsey
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:14 AM
To: PDT Developers
Subject: Re: [pdt-dev] PDT 1.0
Yossi, I think you need to release a 0.7 version. Currently there are users
on Rc2, others on various integration builds and I think it would be better
to have a single version that all users download and report on until 1.0
is delivered. It will be confusing for both users and developers if there
are multiple versions.
Regards
Dave Kelsey
"Yossi Leon" <yossi zend.com>
Sent by: pdt-dev-bounces eclipse.org
28/03/2007 23:01
Please respond to
PDT Developers <pdt-dev eclipse.org> |
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To
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cc
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Subject
[pdt-dev] PDT 1.0 | |
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Hi All,
I would like to share with you the thoughts regarding PDT 1.0 as you can
see below.
If you find any reason not to skip 0.7 and to move forward with 1.0, please
let us know.
Thanks,
--
Yossi Leon
Product Manager, Development Tools
& PDT Project Leader
yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
http://blogs.zend.com/author/yossi/
From: tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces eclipse.org]
On Behalf Of Yossi Leon
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:51 AM
To: Tools PMC mailing list
Cc: Sharon Corbett
Subject: [tools-pmc] PDT 1.0
Hi All,
PDT 0.7 was scheduled to be planned for the end February 2007. Due to IP
issues that are now being investigated the release was postponed.
The roadmap is to have PDT 1.0 on September 2007 which contains mainly
stability and few enhancements comparing to PDT 0.7.
I would like to propose not to wait for the IP approval and for the release
of 0.7 and to move forward toward 1.0 (without any release of 0.7) and
start providing builds for that version ASAP.
Please let me know if this is acceptable.
Thanks,
--
Yossi Leon
Product Manager, Development Tools
& PDT Project Leader
yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
http://blogs.zend.com/author/yossi/
--
Yossi Leon
Product Manager, Development Tools
& PDT Project Leader
yossi zend.com http://www.zend.com/
+1-212-645-0040
http://blogs.zend.com/author/yossi/
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| Re: PDT 1.0 |
  United States |
2007-03-29 09:38:24 |
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Thomas, Dave, Yossi, and everyone else,
The Eclipse policy are very clear: you may not have an official release
(such as 0.7) if there are IP issues pending. So, yes, there is
significant in a name - significance that the Eclipse Board of
Directors has been very clear about.
To be very clear: the EMO will not allow the PDT project to have any
releases named 0.7 or 1.0 or etc before the IP issues are cleared up.
--
Bjorn Freeman
Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Director, Open Source Process
Eclipse Foundation |
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971-327-7323 (pacific time) |
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bjorn.freeman-benson eclipse.org">bjorn.freeman-benson eclipse.org |
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