Re: "Done" (was Re: each @array)

On Sep 10, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote:

> Artur Bergman wrote:
>> There is something to be said for the word done.
>
> The thing about Perl being "done" is that its
highly subjective.   
> Some people
> are perfectly happy with Perl right now, others want
much more.
>
> The thing about feeling that Perl is "done"
now is that, if you  
> like, you
> simply never have to upgrade again.  Everyone who
thinks Perl is  
> "done" can
> just never download anything but bug fix releases for
the rest of  
> their lives
> and be perfectly happy about it.  Write bug fixes for
the existing  
> maint
> branches forever.
>
> The important thing is that the people who think Perl
is "done" not  
> be a drag
> on the people who think Perl has a lot yet to go. 
Leave the folks  
> working on
> 5.12 and Perl 6 alone to run to (hell|heaven),
depending on how you  
> look at it.
>
> You have your dream version of Perl, now let me build
mine in peace.
>

Sadly, there aren't enough resources to implement your dream
version  
of Perl.

Artur

Artur Bergman wrote:
>> You have your dream version of Perl, now let me
build mine in peace.
> 
> Sadly, there aren't enough resources to implement your
dream version of
> Perl.

What is my dream version of Perl?  How much resources will
it take to
implement it?  How did you arrive at this number?

If there aren't enough resources, why not?  How do we get
more?  Were there
more before?  If so, where did they go?

Again, not expecting an answer, just framing the problem.


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MOIN,

ON MONDAY 10 SEPTEMBER 2007 22:57:45 ARTUR BERGMAN WROTE:
> ON SEP 10, 2007, AT 1:52 PM, MICHAEL G SCHWERN WROTE:
> > ARTUR BERGMAN WROTE:
> >> THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THE WORD
DONE.
> >
> > THE THING ABOUT PERL BEING "DONE" IS
THAT ITS HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE.
> > SOME PEOPLE
> > ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH PERL RIGHT NOW, OTHERS
WANT MUCH MORE.
> >
> > THE THING ABOUT FEELING THAT PERL IS
"DONE" NOW IS THAT, IF YOU
> > LIKE, YOU
> > SIMPLY NEVER HAVE TO UPGRADE AGAIN.  EVERYONE WHO
THINKS PERL IS
> > "DONE" CAN
> > JUST NEVER DOWNLOAD ANYTHING BUT BUG FIX RELEASES
FOR THE REST OF
> > THEIR LIVES
> > AND BE PERFECTLY HAPPY ABOUT IT.  WRITE BUG FIXES
FOR THE EXISTING
> > MAINT
> > BRANCHES FOREVER.
> >
> > THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO THINK
PERL IS "DONE" NOT
> > BE A DRAG
> > ON THE PEOPLE WHO THINK PERL HAS A LOT YET TO GO. 
LEAVE THE FOLKS
> > WORKING ON
> > 5.12 AND PERL 6 ALONE TO RUN TO (HELL|HEAVEN),
DEPENDING ON HOW YOU
> > LOOK AT IT.
> >
> > YOU HAVE YOUR DREAM VERSION OF PERL, NOW LET ME
BUILD MINE IN PEACE.
>
> SADLY, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT YOUR
DREAM VERSION
> OF PERL.

FUNNY, WE (HERE AT P5P) ARE ALL CURRENTLY WORKING ON IT. IF
YOU AREN'T, THEN 
WHY ARE YOU HERE? 

ALL THE BEST,

TELS

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