Confirming consensus calls performed in the dna meeting @ IETF 71

Hi Folks,
   I would like to verify the consensus calls performed in
the dna wg 
meeting.

Adoption of draft-krishnan-dna-simple as wg item:
Yes: 15
No: 0

Way forward with Complete DNA:
Publish as Informational (remove code point requirements):
2
Publish as Historic(no more work): 0
Complete current PS work and improve to publish as
Experimental: 2
Let it die: 3

Work on dna tentative in dna wg:
Yes: 7
No: 0

Please send your response to the ML to be counted in. This
confirmation 
period will continue until 26th March 2008 AOE.

Cheers
Suresh & Greg

[I am not sure if I am sending a similar email twice - my
previous email 
seems to have disappeared]

I am surprised to see that the group wants to discard all
the effort 
that went in to developing the complete DNA solution - I
understand that 
we don't see the need for a complex solution at this point
in time -I 
support the decision to create a simple solution and not
spend more 
effort on the complete DNA solution. But, totally discarding
it seems 
like throwing the baby with the bath water to me (if not the
baby, it is 
at least throwing baby toys with the bath water). I think
with minimum 
effort we can publish the complete DNA solution as an
Informational or 
as Experimental for future reference - assuming that this
work will 
never be useful in the future seems extreme to me. I will be
happy to do 
the work needed to see the document through.

So, I vote to publish the complete DNA solution as
Informational or 
Experimental.

best
Sathya

Suresh Krishnan wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>   I would like to verify the consensus calls performed
in the dna wg 
> meeting.
>
> Adoption of draft-krishnan-dna-simple as wg item:
> Yes: 15
> No: 0
>
> Way forward with Complete DNA:
> Publish as Informational (remove code point
requirements): 2
> Publish as Historic(no more work): 0
> Complete current PS work and improve to publish as
Experimental: 2
> Let it die: 3
>
> Work on dna tentative in dna wg:
> Yes: 7
> No: 0
>
> Please send your response to the ML to be counted in.
This 
> confirmation period will continue until 26th March 2008
AOE.
>
> Cheers
> Suresh & Greg

On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>    I would like to verify the consensus calls performed
in the dna wg
> meeting.

Hi Suresh,

My input:

> Adoption of draft-krishnan-dna-simple as wg item:
> Yes: 15
> No: 0

Yes.

> Way forward with Complete DNA:
> Publish as Informational (remove code point
requirements): 2
> Publish as Historic(no more work): 0
> Complete current PS work and improve to publish as
Experimental: 2
> Let it die: 3

Publish as Informational (remove code point requirements).

Reason: if we publish it as experimental, or informational
with the code 
points there's risk of confusing people outside the IETF, I
think -- 
they might well have no idea what's the difference between 
Experimental, Informational, Standard Track.

Let it die seems sad and a bad idea. There are good ideas in
this 
draft/solution and they should survive the WG, I think. It
would avoid 
people reinventing the wheel later, and it's good to
remember that RFC 
means request for comments. Removing codepoints insure that
nobody can 
implement straight from the RFC and think they have
implemented *The* 
IETF's DNA. Not much is lost by removing the codepoints
since if the 
IETF want to standardize the complete DNA in 5 years, they
will just 
have to put them back 

--julien

Hi Suresh,

> Adoption of draft-krishnan-dna-simple as wg item:
> Yes: 15
> No: 0
 
Yes.

> Way forward with Complete DNA:
> Publish as Informational (remove code point
requirements): 2
> Publish as Historic(no more work): 0
> Complete current PS work and improve to publish as
Experimental: 2
> Let it die: 3

I support to publish the work  (no strong opinion whether it
should be
informational, historic or BCP). 

> Work on dna tentative in dna wg:
> Yes: 7
> No: 0

No opinion (depends on the need of the Tentative option in
Simple DNA).

Genadi


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dnaecselists.eng.monash.edu.au 
> [mailto:owner-dnaecselists.eng.monash.edu.au] On Behalf Of

> Suresh Krishnan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:17 PM
> To: Dna
> Cc: Jari Arkko
> Subject: [DNA] Confirming consensus calls performed in
the 
> dna meeting  IETF 71
> 
> Hi Folks,
>    I would like to verify the consensus calls performed
in the dna wg 
> meeting.
> 
> Adoption of draft-krishnan-dna-simple as wg item:
> Yes: 15
> No: 0
> 
> Way forward with Complete DNA:
> Publish as Informational (remove code point
requirements): 2
> Publish as Historic(no more work): 0
> Complete current PS work and improve to publish as
Experimental: 2
> Let it die: 3
> 
> Work on dna tentative in dna wg:
> Yes: 7
> No: 0
> 
> Please send your response to the ML to be counted in.
This 
> confirmation 
> period will continue until 26th March 2008 AOE.
> 
> Cheers
> Suresh & Greg
> 
> 


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