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Information on DSS-2 and new hashes
user name
2006-02-17 22:11:42
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I'm sitting in an auditorium at the NSF CyberTrust Workshop
being held
in Menlo Park, California.  My advisor's plane got grounded
in O'Hare
due to the recent snowstorm and so he's unable to attend. 
I'm sitting
in his place, with Ron Rivest on one side of me, Avi Rubin
one seat past
him, David Wagner further on down, with Josh Benaloh
rounding out the
crop.  I have never before felt so insignificant in the
world of
computer security.

I struck up a conversation with various and sundry people
over lunch,
asking people from NIST and people well-known for their
involvement in
crypto and hash functions questions about when we were going
to see
DSS-2... after all, shouldn't it have come out some time
ago?

So far the unanimous answer has been "DSS-2?  What? 
Nobody told me
about that."

Nobody, literally _nobody_ is aware of any current work on
DSS-2.  I've
been referred to something called Suite B, which is a new
DoD standard
for digital signatures incorporating ECC and other more
recent
developments, but there's been nothing about any extensions
or revisions
to DSS.

Please note that I am _not_ saying DSS-2 is nonexistent. 
All that I'm
saying is that the people who I would expect to be following
DSS-2 have
literally never heard of it.

Other news: Rivest says that the SHA-2 series "appear
immune" to the
SHA-1 attack.  He immediately qualified that statement by
saying that
the SHA-1 attack was very surprising and he wasn't ruling
out the
possibility of other very surprising attacks against the
SHA-2 family;
however, for the moment, the SHA-2 family is the best game
in town.  I
asked him if the SHA-2 family were a long-term solution
given that it's
a FIPS, and his response was (understandably) ambivalent--it
amounted to
"its term is until someone finds a good attack against
it, whenever that
is".  I asked about future developments in hash
functions, and he
indicated things were moving very slowly and we shouldn't
expect any new
FIPS for another couple of years.

The conference is going well, but I'm unable to comment on
its content.

More stuff later.

Obligatory legalese: *Ask me for permission before you
reprint this
elsewhere*.

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Information on DSS-2 and new hashes
user name
2006-02-17 23:35:59
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— —
— —
— — ·
— — ·
— —      Was another beautiful day, 06-02-17, at 16:11:42
-0600,
— — ·    when Robert J. Hansen wrote:

> Obligatory legalese: *Ask me for permission before you
reprint this
> elsewhere*.

Well, once we are in position to verify your signature, we
most probably
shall.

Is it retelling allowed? (-: Those are very piquant
informations from
the very source of crypto nobility so I doubt that just
everyone will
resist such a valuable morsel.

- --
Mica
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Information on DSS-2 and new hashes
user name
2006-02-17 23:51:02
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Mica Mijatovic wrote:

> Well, once we are in position to verify your signature,
we
most probably
> shall.
>
> Is it retelling allowed? (-: Those are very piquant
informations from
> the very source of crypto nobility so I doubt that just
everyone will
> resist such a valuable morsel.
>

Sorry Mica, but I show a 'Bad Sig' on this Post.

JOHN :(
Timestamp: Friday 17 Feb 2006, 18:50  --500 (Eastern
Standard
Time)

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Information on DSS-2 and new hashes
user name
2006-02-18 00:51:13
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———
——— ·
— —
——— ·
——— ·    Was another beautiful day, 06-02-18, at 18:51:02
-0500,
— — ·    when John W. Moore III wrote:

> Mica Mijatovic wrote:

>> Well, once we are in position to verify your
signature, we

[...]

> Sorry Mica, but I show a 'Bad Sig' on this Post.

Thanks, John. Here it arrived with signature
"Good":

gpg: Signature made 02/18/06 00:35:56 Central Europe
Standard Time using RSA key ID C452DBFC
gpg: Good signature from "Mica Mijatovic (jinjin)
<000>"

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