Re: GNU 2.0 and Windows

--- In PGP-Basics@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J.
Hansen" <rjh...> wrote:
>
> >    Just so I'm clear on this...when using Outlook
Express (OLE) I 
am
> > able to send and receive encrypted messages and
sign them too. I 
find
> > radio buttons for "Sign" and
"Encrypt" on it's toolbar. As a 
matter
> > of fact, the MS OLE  software will automatically
place the email-
> > received Digital ID info in my address box which,I
suppoese, is 
like
> > a PGP keyring.
> 
> This is not "OLE Security".  This is S/MIME,
a competing standard 
to  
> OpenPGP.
> 
> >   So, after reading this messgae are you still of
the opinion that
> > I'm not as secure as I think I am?
> 
> If you seriously think the U.S. government is intent on
reading 
your  
> email, then your best option is to stop using
technology.
> 
> First World governments have large budgets, lots of
experience at  
> traffic interception, and smart, motivated technical
experts.  
Don't  
> think that you can just buy peace of mind just by
waving a little  
> magic crypto fairy dust over your problem.
>

   Yes, I realise I'd be kidding myself if I thought
"First World 
Governments" couldn't read my OLE encrypted messages.
All I am asking 
is... is OLE secure enough to keep my *local phone company*
(my ISP) 
from reading encrypted messages sent and received? I guess I
still 
don't understand the processes well enough and need to study
the 
differences between PGP, S/MIME, etc.

 Thanks again for your input

 Tom Warren     




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>    Yes, I realise I'd be kidding myself if I thought
"First World
> Governments" couldn't read my OLE encrypted
messages. All I am asking
> is... is OLE secure enough to keep my *local phone
company* (my ISP)
> from reading encrypted messages sent and received? I
guess I still
> don't understand the processes well enough and need to
study the
> differences between PGP, S/MIME, etc.

S/MIME is probably enough for this purpose, yes.






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> From: Tom Warren
...
> > >    Just so I'm clear on this...when using
Outlook Express (OLE)

OE = Outlook Express
OLE = Object Linking and Embedding (whether or not it is a
good
obfuscatory reference...?)

...
> > > able to send and receive encrypted messages
and sign them too.
...
> > > radio buttons for "Sign" and
"Encrypt" on it's toolbar. As a
matter
> > > of fact, the MS OLE  software will
automatically place the email-
> > > received Digital ID info in my address box
which,I suppoese, is
like
> > > a PGP keyring.

Sounds like digital certificates rather than PGP. They're
weaker than
PGP, but should dissuade casual eavesdropping.

...
> asking is... is OLE secure enough to keep my *local
phone company* (my
> ISP) from reading encrypted messages sent and received?
I guess I
still

Ohhh...maybe. If they don't have key-loggers and other
spyware on your
system...if they don't periodically black-bag your home and
copy off
your certificates...what are the costs and benefits of
reading your
mail? Ya places yer bets an ya takes yer chances....




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