Time for DUNLIN to peck its way out?

Caroline,

Thanks for the reminder, I have changed the Tuscany defect
1297 to
closed.

I have made a note of the Tuscany level in our DUNLIN page
here - I'll
remember to add it to the release notes.

I have just answered your post on 24th May - which I never
spotted at
the time, apologies. There must be another one I have missed
since you
say "either of my requests". Please point me at
the one I have missed.

Simon,

I will email you a copy of the tgz file once I have made
it.


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Matthew Peters wrote:

> I have just answered your post on 24th May - which I
never spotted at
> the time, apologies. There must be another one I have
missed since you
> say "either of my requests". Please point me
at the one I have missed.

FWIW, it was in a reply sent 8 Jun to a private mail from
you ... as my 
previous append was intended to be :-/


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simonslawsgooglemail.com wrote:

> I think that creating the suggested tests is a good
idea. I've seen
> several emails pass by about release process and have
to confess that
> I don't remember the details. While I'm not a big fan
of being too
> process oriented our build and release is sufficiently
complicated
> that it would benefit from having this written down.
Caroline, would
> you be prepared to commit what you think the various
important things
> to get right are to a page up on the web site a
osoa.org? If you don't
> have time to do this I could extract thoughts from the
email archive
> and document but would be good to get a brain dump.

It's not so much dumping it as keeping it running that I
find difficult 

What we're talking about here is not really release process
but 
development process. I'm certainly not intending to stand up
for big 
cumbersome processes. To my mind, prompt management of
Tuscany defects 
according to >their< rules is a basic courtesy to the
Tuscany developers 
who are kind enough to to help us, that's all.

OTOH, this test-driven development thing was my personal
response to the 
confused state that I alone had let the bug tracker get
into, which took 
me a few days to disentangle. I would really like the team
to stick with 
it even now that Matthew is working on SDO as well as SCA,
because I do 
believe that a smaller amount of work earlier will save us
more time 
later, and reduce the number of unwanted side-effects that
we see.

Documenting how the project is run is a big undertaking. I
think it 
would be a Good Thing, and to be authoritative, one that all
the 
projects leads would need to take part in. It just so
happens that I 
have on my desk right now a copy of Karl Fogel(my hero)'s
book Producing 
Open Source Software, and he points to the Hacker's Guide to
Subversion 
(http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/www/hacking.html
) as a good 
example of project guidelines (well he would say that,
wouldn't he?). 
Would you like me to create a wiki page with the subheadings
defined in 
that document? If everyone likes that idea, then I promise
to contribute 
some stuff under some of the subheadings. (For more, see 
http://
producingoss.com/en/written-rules.html - I love that
man).


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+1 to this idea. In the context of this thread, if I could
encourage
you to put you thoughts down about the bug filing and fixing
process
that would be excellent.

Simon


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