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| newbie question on Sun java 5 EE
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2006-10-17 03:53:30 |
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I downloaded and installed the Java 5 EE SDK and managed to lock myself out of the application server admin console. I don't remember exactly what I did when installing but I didn't do what the tutorial seggested and select the Don't Prompt for Admin User Name radio button. Is there anyway that I can fix this or do I just have to re-install the whole SDK?
Thanks,
Mike
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| newbie question on Sun java 5 EE
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2006-10-17 04:49:38 |
Mike,
There seems to be some confusion about the difference
between an SDK and
an application Server. I'd suggest you investigate those
terms on
Wikipedia. Sorry for the short reply, but it seems quicker
to refer you
to a good resource rather than me repeating something that's
already
documented well.
As for your lockout problem, I'm not sure which application
server
you've downloaded, but most of them are not easily broken
into.
Assuming you've not done any significant amount of setup, it
will likely
be easier (less time) to just reinstall it. Besides,
consider that this
gives you more installation practice.
good luck Mike,
joe
Michael Phoenix wrote:
> I downloaded and installed the Java 5 EE SDK and
managed to lock
> myself out of the application server admin console. I
don't remember
> exactly what I did when installing but I didn't do what
the tutorial
> seggested and select the Don't Prompt for Admin User
Name radio
> button. Is there anyway that I can fix this or do I
just have
> to re-install the whole SDK?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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| newbie question on Sun java 5 EE
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2006-10-17 05:34:28 |
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Joe Hoffman wrote:
intelopment.com" type="cite">
Mike,
There seems to be some confusion about the difference between an SDK and
an application Server. I'd suggest you investigate those terms on
Wikipedia. Sorry for the short reply, but it seems quicker to refer you
to a good resource rather than me repeating something that's already
documented well.
As for your lockout problem, I'm not sure which application server
you've downloaded,
Sun's product, the "Java EE 5 SDK", is an application server... I
believe this is what he downloaded.
intelopment.com" type="cite">
but most of them are not easily broken into. Assuming you've not done any significant amount of setup, it will likely
be easier (less time) to just reinstall it. Besides, consider that this
gives you more installation practice.
Yes, this is true...
The checkbox you're referring to won't disable the login/password for
the admin console. You'll still need to know the admin username /
password. The default is: admin/adminadmin. But if you chose
something else... then it's probably easier to re-install.
When you reinstall, make sure your server is stopped. If you're
reinstalling in the same directory, it's best if you remove the old
files first.
Good luck!
Ken
P.S. If you're doing this for your own education, I'd recommend a
recent GlassFish build. It's the same code-base, but has more features
/ bug fixes. There are several significant JSF bug fixes that are in
GlassFish but not in the Java EE 5 SDK / or SJS AS 9.x. GlassFish is
more "bleeding edge," though...
intelopment.com" type="cite">
good luck Mike,
joe
Michael Phoenix wrote:
I downloaded and installed the Java 5 EE SDK and managed to lock
myself out of the application server admin console. I don't remember
exactly what I did when installing but I didn't do what the tutorial
seggested and select the Don't Prompt for Admin User Name radio
button. Is there anyway that I can fix this or do I just have
to re-install the whole SDK?
Thanks,
Mike
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| newbie question on Sun java 5 EE
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2006-10-17 13:26:29 |
Ken,
Thanks for the lesson on Sun's SDK, ah er, I mean
AppServer.
Obviously I"ve not played wiith this thing called Java
EE 5 SDK, I
guess the label of 5 and EE together should have given me a
clue it's
not my daddy's EE SDK.
What on earth is the naming team thinking? This is quite
confusing to
the community to use the term SDK to refer to a container.
But here I go again trying to put reason behind corporate
actions.
Shame on me.
joe
Ken Paulsen wrote:
>
>
> Joe Hoffman wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> There seems to be some confusion about the
difference between an SDK and
>> an application Server. I'd suggest you investigate
those terms on
>> Wikipedia. Sorry for the short reply, but it seems
quicker to refer you
>> to a good resource rather than me repeating
something that's already
>> documented well.
>>
>> As for your lockout problem, I'm not sure which
application server
>> you've downloaded,
> Sun's product, the "Java EE 5 SDK", is an
application server... I
> believe this is what he downloaded.
>> but most of them are not easily broken into.
Assuming you've not done any significant amount of setup, it
will likely
>> be easier (less time) to just reinstall it.
Besides, consider that this
>> gives you more installation practice.
>>
> Yes, this is true...
>
> The checkbox you're referring to won't disable the
login/password for
> the admin console. You'll still need to know the admin
username /
> password. The default is: admin/adminadmin. But if
you chose
> something else... then it's probably easier to
re-install.
>
> When you reinstall, make sure your server is stopped.
If you're
> reinstalling in the same directory, it's best if you
remove the old
> files first.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ken
>
> P.S. If you're doing this for your own education, I'd
recommend a
> recent GlassFish build. It's the same code-base, but
has more
> features / bug fixes. There are several significant
JSF bug fixes
> that are in GlassFish but not in the Java EE 5 SDK / or
SJS AS 9.x.
> GlassFish is more "bleeding edge," though...
>> good luck Mike,
>>
>> joe
>>
>> Michael Phoenix wrote:
>>
>>> I downloaded and installed the Java 5 EE SDK
and managed to lock
>>> myself out of the application server admin
console. I don't remember
>>> exactly what I did when installing but I didn't
do what the tutorial
>>> seggested and select the Don't Prompt for Admin
User Name radio
>>> button. Is there anyway that I can fix this or
do I just have
>>> to re-install the whole SDK?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>>
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------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Web Site - http://www.pjug.org/
>>> Javamail mailing list
>>> Javamailpjug.org
>>> http://www.pjug.org/mailman/listinfo/javamail_pjug.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Web Site - http://www.pjug.org/
>> Javamail mailing list
>> Javamailpjug.org
>> http://www.pjug.org/mailman/listinfo/javamail_pjug.org
>>
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| newbie question on Sun java 5 EE
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2006-10-17 16:04:02 |
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As a member of the engineering team, I can assure you we are equally
disappointed.  Engineering picked name: GlassFish (sure it doesn't
mean anything, but it's short and relatively easy to remember).
Marketing picked names:
; Sun Java System Application Server Platform Edition 9
Java EE 5 SDK
The first is longer than many sentences, the 2nd doesn't say anything
about being an app server. Both are so generic you don't realize they
are products. Most of our other "products" are equally butchered. :(
Ken
Joe Hoffman wrote:
intelopment.com" type="cite">
Ken,
Thanks for the lesson on Sun's SDK, ah er, I mean AppServer.
Obviously I"ve not played wiith this thing called Java EE 5 SDK, I
guess the label of 5 and EE together should have given me a clue it's
not my daddy's EE SDK.
What on earth is the naming team thinking? This is quite confusing to
the community to use the term SDK to refer to a container.
But here I go again trying to put reason behind corporate actions.
Shame on me.
joe
Ken Paulsen wrote:
Joe Hoffman wrote:
Mike,
There seems to be some confusion about the difference between an SDK and
an application Server. I'd suggest you investigate those terms on
Wikipedia. Sorry for the short reply, but it seems quicker to refer you
to a good resource rather than me repeating something that's already
documented well.
As for your lockout problem, I'm not sure which application server
you've downloaded,
Sun's product, the "Java EE 5 SDK", is an application server... I
believe this is what he downloaded.
but most of them are not easily broken into. Assuming you've not done any significant amount of setup, it will likely
be easier (less time) to just reinstall it. Besides, consider that this
gives you more installation practice.
Yes, this is true...
The checkbox you're referring to won't disable the login/password for
the admin console. You'll still need to know the admin username /
password. The default is: admin/adminadmin. But if you chose
something else... then it's probably easier to re-install.
When you reinstall, make sure your server is stopped. If you're
reinstalling in the same directory, it's best if you remove the old
files first.
Good luck!
Ken
P.S. If you're doing this for your own education, I'd recommend a
recent GlassFish build. It's the same code-base, but has more
features / bug fixes. There are several significant JSF bug fixes
that are in GlassFish but not in the Java EE 5 SDK / or SJS AS 9.x.
GlassFish is more "bleeding edge," though...
good luck Mike,
joe
Michael Phoenix wrote:
I downloaded and installed the Java 5 EE SDK and managed to lock
myself out of the application server admin console. I don't remember
exactly what I did when installing but I didn't do what the tutorial
seggested and select the Don't Prompt for Admin User Name radio
button. Is there anyway that I can fix this or do I just have
to re-install the whole SDK?
Thanks,
Mike
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| newbie question on Sun java 5 EE
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2006-10-18 03:00:48 |
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Yeah, it's kind of hard to figure exactly where the SDK ends and the application server begins. I did a uninstall, which according to the windows presented unistalls the entire Java 5 EE SDK. What makes it a little more confusing is that the EE SDK installs the SE SDK as one of its components.
BTW, Ken, I want to use the Sun PE 9 Server because I am taking the Javapassion J2EE on-line class and they are using the Sun server. I'll probably check out Glassfish when I get a little more comfortable with application servers in general.
Mike
On 10/17/06, Ken Paulsen < Ken.Paulsensun.com">Ken.Paulsensun.com> wrote:
As a member of the engineerin g team, I can assure you we are equally disappointed. Engineering picked name: GlassFish (sure it doesn't mean anything, but it's short and relatively easy to remember). Marketing picked names:
Sun Java System Application Server Platform Edition 9
Java EE 5 SDK
The first is longer than many sentences, the 2nd doesn't say anything about being an app server. Both are so generic you don't realize they are products. Most of our other "products" are equally butchered. :(
Ken
Joe Hoffman wrote:
intelopment.com" type="cite">Ken,
Thanks for the lesson on Sun's SDK, ah er, I mean AppServer.
Obviously I"ve not played wiith this thing called Java EE 5 SDK, I
guess the label of 5 and EE together should have given me a clue it's
not my daddy's EE SDK.
What on earth is the naming team thinking? This is quite confusing to
the community to use the term SDK to refer to a container.
But here I go again trying to put reason behind corporate actions.
Shame on me.
joe
Ken Paulsen wrote:
Joe Hoffman wrote:
Mike,
There seems to be some confusion about the difference between an SDK and
an application Server. I'd suggest you investigate those terms on
Wikipedia. Sorry for the short reply, but it seems quicker to refer you
to a good resource rather than me repeating something that's already
documented well.
As for your lockout problem, I'm not sure which application server
you've downloaded,
Sun's product, the "Java EE 5 SDK", is an application server... I
believe this is what he downloaded.
but most of them are not easily broken into. Assuming you've not done any significant amount of setup, it will likely
be easier (less time) to just reinstall it. Besides, consider that this
gives you more installation practice.
Yes, this is true...
The checkbox you're referring to won't disable the login/password for
the admin console. You'll still need to know the admin username /
password. The default is: admin/adminadmin. But if you chose
something else... then it's probably easier to re-install.
When you reinstall, make sure your server is stopped. If you're
reinstalling in the same directory, it's best if you remove the old
files first.
Good luck!
Ken
P.S. If you're doing this for your own education, I'd recommend a
recent GlassFish build. It's the same code-base, but has more
features / bug fixes. There are several significant JSF bug fixes
that are in GlassFish but not in the Java EE 5 SDK / or SJS AS 9.x.
GlassFish is more "bleeding edge,"; though...
good luck Mike,
joe
Michael Phoenix wrote:
I downloaded and installed the Java 5 EE SDK and managed to lock
myself out of the application server admin console. I don't remember
exactly what I did when installing but I didn't do what the tutorial
seggested and select the Don't Prompt for Admin User Name radio
button. Is there anyway that I can fix this or do I just have
to re-install the whole SDK?
Thanks,
Mike
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2006-10-18 05:07:12 |
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Michael Phoenix wrote:
mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
Yeah, it's kind of hard to figure exactly where the SDK ends and
the application server begins. I did a uninstall, which according to
the windows presented unistalls the entire Java 5 EE SDK. What makes it
a little more confusing is that the EE SDK installs the SE SDK as one
of its components.
BTW, Ken, I want to use the Sun PE 9 Server because I am taking
the Javapassion J2EE on-line class and they are using the Sun server.
I'll probably check out Glassfish when I get a little more comfortable
with application servers in general.
FYI, Java EE 5 SDK, SJS AS PE 9.x, and GlassFish are all the same
server. The non-GlassFish named servers are simply better tested
builds w/ official support offerings & a GUI installer. All are
free for any use.
Ken
mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
Mike
On 10/17/06, Ken Paulsen <sun.com">Ken.Paulsensun.com> wrote:
As a member of the engineerin g team, I can assure you we are equally
disappointed. Engineering picked name: GlassFish (sure it doesn't
mean anything, but it's short and relatively easy to remember).
Marketing picked names:
Sun Java System Application Server Platform Edition 9
Java EE 5 SDK
The first is longer than many sentences, the 2nd doesn't say anything
about being an app server. Both are so generic you don't realize they
are products. Most of our other "products" are equally butchered. :(
Ken
Joe Hoffman wrote:
intelopment.com"
type="cite">
Ken,
Thanks for the lesson on Sun's SDK, ah er, I mean AppServer.
Obviously I"ve not played wiith this thing called Java EE 5 SDK, I
guess the label of 5 and EE together should have given me a clue it's
not my daddy's EE SDK.
What on earth is the naming team thinking? This is quite confusing to
the community to use the term SDK to refer to a container.
But here I go again trying to put reason behind corporate actions.
Shame on me.
joe
Ken Paulsen wrote:
Joe Hoffman wrote:
Mike,
There seems to be some confusion about the difference between an SDK and
an application Server. I'd suggest you investigate those terms on
Wikipedia. Sorry for the short reply, but it seems quicker to refer you
to a good resource rather than me repeating something that's already
documented well.
As for your lockout problem, I'm not sure which application server
you've downloaded,
Sun's product, the "Java EE 5 SDK", is an application server... I
believe this is what he downloaded.
but most of them are not easily broken into. Assuming you've not done any significant amount of setup, it will likely
be easier (less time) to just reinstall it. Besides, consider that this
gives you more installation practice.
Yes, this is true...
The checkbox you're referring to won't disable the login/password for
the admin console. You'll still need to know the admin username /
password. The default is: admin/adminadmin. But if you chose
something else... then it's probably easier to re-install.
When you reinstall, make sure your server is stopped. If you're
reinstalling in the same directory, it's best if you remove the old
files first.
Good luck!
Ken
P.S. If you're doing this for your own education, I'd recommend a
recent GlassFish build. It's the same code-base, but has more
features / bug fixes. There are several significant JSF bug fixes
that are in GlassFish but not in the Java EE 5 SDK / or SJS AS 9.x.
GlassFish is more "bleeding edge," though...
good luck Mike,
joe
Michael Phoenix wrote:
I downloaded and installed the Java 5 EE SDK and managed to lock
myself out of the application server admin console. I don't remember
exactly what I did when installing but I didn't do what the tutorial
seggested and select the Don't Prompt for Admin User Name radio
button. Is there anyway that I can fix this or do I just have
to re-install the whole SDK?
Thanks,
Mike
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