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 2006-11-15 05:58:47 

  


  

    Hi,

Looks like open source competition is forcing a lot of vendors to chnage their business model.

Icefaces- the AJAX JSF implementation which has been out for 2 yrs has open sourced their code base.Looks like Dojo and Eclipse AJT is forcing businesses to change their business model.

http://www.icesoft.com/corporate/press_release_11_06_open_source.html

It is great for an end-user but I wonder how the smaller companies like icefaces and JetBrains(IDEA) will survive under this onslaught of the Goliath(Eclipse powered by IBM).


Vijay


  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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Vijay Balakrishnan wrote:

mail.gmail.com"
 type="cite">Hi,

  

Looks like open source competition is forcing a lot of vendors to
chnage their business model.



Yes.


mail.gmail.com"
 type="cite">Icefaces- the AJAX JSF implementation which has been out
for 2 yrs has open sourced their code base.Looks like Dojo and Eclipse
AJT is forcing businesses to change their business model.
  

  http://www.icesoft.com/corporate/press_release_11_06_open_source.html



Ice Faces was one of the first (the first?) companies to do "Ajax"
style components (before Ajax was called Ajax).  I've been very
impressed for the last couple JavaONE's with what they have had to
present.  I have spoken to them a couple times about adding support for
their components to JSFTemplating... now that they're open source (as
of today), I might move forward w/ that more quickly (perhaps this
weekend...).  And *that's* the power of Open Source... it opens doors
that otherwise would be closed.



Dojo is an open source project sponsored by a very small company based
in S.F.  I've had a chance to personally speak with Alex Russell...
very down to earth, great guy.  While I think their work is significant
(one of, if not the best Ajax framework out there), I don't know that
they are single-handedly forcing anyone to be open source.



Anyway, the easiest way to use some of the Dojo widgets (and other Ajax
vendor widgets) is via Greg Murray's jMaki project
(https://ajax.dev.java.net).  This project is gaining a lot of traction
and is now (I think it's announced) available even for PHP in addition
to JSF and JSP.  The "Gallery" section of the project is a must see.


mail.gmail.com"
 type="cite">It is great for an end-user but I wonder how the smaller
companies like icefaces and JetBrains(IDEA) will survive under this
onslaught of the Goliath(Eclipse powered by IBM).
  



I think the short answer is: Services and Support.



And for the record... most of the big companies were drug kicking and
screaming into the open source movement.  It was the "little guy" that
started the whole thing.  It's now a standard business practice and
companies big and small are having to adapt (some monopolies
excluded... but their clock is ticking).



Anyway, that's just 2 more cents from me... ; ;)



Ken Paulsen

sun.com">ken.paulsensun.com

https://jsftemplating.dev.java.net


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