Re: Re: PCL or PostScript

Henry G Belot schreef:
> Theo:
>
>   
>>> TZ> Rival is my word. Wikipedia in Dutch
talks about (translated): 'The 
>>> TZ> largest counterpart of PCL is PostScript
' (I just looked it up  ).
>>> TZ> Is this a better translation?
>>>
>>> It may be a better translation, but the
resulting statement is equally ignorant
>>> and misleading
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Why, Don (and Henry)?...
>>   
>>     
...snip...
>  From the outset PostScript had a very public persona
and was pushed 
> firmly into professional publishing circles. PCL hasn't
stepped forward 
> in the same way. No print house is going to say to you,
"We need your 
> document in a PCL format," but they may want it in
a PostScript format. 
> I don't think the two languages have ever attempted to
go head to head 
> the way the video formats have. Coexistence, not
rivalry, was always 
> part of the ground rules. At least that's what it looks
like to me at 
> this remove.
>
> HB
>   

I can agree to that, coexistence instead of rivalry.

I think that PCL was made for the consumer market. And
PostScript for 
professional market.
Not that HP (PCL) did not want a foot in that professional
market, but 
somehow they failed to do that.
But if they got a foot in that professional market, they
were, or are, 
rivals.
And that the best system wins is not always the case.
(VHS did win, but Betamax and C2000 were superior. And why?
Because the 
sex-videos were first available on VHS.
Were does this make Blu-ray stand? They don't allow
sex-videos on 
Blu-ray yet, but HD-DVD does allow that...
Not that I know that Blu-ray is better than HD-DVD!).

Anyway, thanks for commenting (now back to PageStream. Deron
and Dan also?)

Theo

PS

Dan Baturensky do you have an answer to your question (HL
2040), or are you trading it in for a new printer?






 
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Theo:

> ...(VHS did win, but Betamax and C2000 were superior.
And why? Because the 
> sex-videos were first available on VHS.
> Were does this make Blu-ray stand? They don't allow
sex-videos on 
> Blu-ray yet, but HD-DVD does allow that...
>   

I don't know whether the porn industry played favorites with
the 
consumer video formats, but the fact is that VHS had a
demonstrable 
advantage in terms of capacity and Betamax had to play
catch-up. Since 
they were starting from a smaller shell, they would never
have been able 
to completely close the gap. Consumers immediately went for
the 
convenience of having more recording and playback time on
VHS.

As for Blu-ray, Sony itself will not duplicate porn titles,
but they've 
not attempted to influence other duplicators and I
understand that porn 
is available in the format.

As to your earlier comment about drives capable of playing
both formats, 
I'm not entirely sure of what's available or about to be
available for 
your computer, but a dual format, high definition player was
introduced 
at CES last month and will be available in stores within the
next two or 
three months. Furthermore, as an interim measure, Warner
Home Video has 
developed a hybrid disc called T-HD (I think) which has both
Blu-ray and 
HD-DVD on the same disc. These are not "flippers."
There are four layers 
of video on the discs, two for Blu-ray and two for HD-DVD.
T-HD was 
shown at CES and played flawlessly on machines from both
camps. On the 
dual-format player, the discs played in the Blu-ray format.
WHV intends 
to release their high-def product exclusively on this format
and is not 
charging a licensing fee to other companies who might wish
to use it. 
They will be slightly more expensive in the stores because
companies 
will have to pay licensing fees to both camps and not just
one.

Respecting the "war," Blu-ray discs are outselling
HD-DVD 2:1 and total 
Blu-ray software sales since the product launch are likely
to exceed 
total sales for HD-DVD in the near future. Those numbers,
not player 
sales, are the ones that point to victory. Interestingly,
Sony got the 
capacity thing right this time. The HD-DVD camp has working
laboratory 
versions of a three-layer HD-DVD disc giving those discs
about the same 
capacity as a two-layer Blu-ray disc. But Sony has working
four- and 
five-layer versions of Blu-ray in their labs. This time,
it's the other 
guys who "blu" it.

The technical quality of the two formats is identical no
matter what any 
eagle-eyed reviewer may tell you. Detail in moving objects
is something 
the human eye has to interpolate because the eye has an
"exposure" of 
1/16th of a second. There are so many factors that can
affect the way we 
/perceive/ detail in moving images that nothing but the most
tightly 
controlled double-blind laboratory tests could possibly
uncover any 
objective differences between these formats, and it's highly
unlikely 
that they would.

HB


 
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