Re: Re: Memory requirement

Numbers in parentheses refer to questions in message I am
responding to.

(1) It appears that memtest86 is for Linux only. I
downloaded versions 3.2  
and 3.3. The installation instructions in the readme for
both versions is  
for Linux (talks about Makefile and Lilo).

(2) PageStream is the only program with frequent crashes,
which has been  
the case since I purchased it in March 2005. (4) The Dell
4700 system is  
as delivered except that I increased the memory from .5 MB
to 1.5 MB  
hoping to improve PageStream stability. PageStream crashed
before I made  
that change as well as after. And it is not just one
document or one  
operation that causes the crashes.

Crashes occur even when PGS is the only application
running--antivirus and  
firewall being shutdown. (3) At various times I run paradox
9 database,  
WordPerfect 12, PaintShop Pro 9 and XI, and three Web
browsers, among  
other applications, none of which crash. (3) I even run
Microsoft Train  
Simulator with no problem, and that certainly stresses the
system.

Here are specifics for one current problem using PGS
5.0.3.4: sending a  
one-page, legal size document with five small JPG images to
my Lexmark Z22  
color inkjet causes PageStream to close. I have saved the
report Windows  
would have sent to Microsoft, in case it would be useful.
The driver for  
this printer is the latest available for XP. The failure is
solid and also  
occurs with PGS 5.0.1.37. However, if I save the page as a
PDF, that will  
print on this printer.

The same PGS file (30.5 MB) will print on my Brother HL-1440
laser  
printer. But the page prints in negative if fast print setup
is selected.  
With fast print checked, the laser printer prints in
negative; with fast  
print cleared, it prints correctly. I thought I had cleared
up this  
negative printing problem last autumn when I first
downloaded  
Windows.prt.1.0c.zip. Since then I have uninstalled and
reinstalled the  
two versions of PGS that I have referred to and have again
downloaded and  
installed the Windows.prt.1.0c.zip printer driver, after
verifying the MD5  
checksum.

-- 
Best regards,
____
  /om    jojfrostmidmaine.com

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:50:48 -0500, admfubar
<admfubaryahoo.com> wrote:

> Sounds like it could be a hardware problem. (1) Have
you run a memory
> check on your system?? (2) Is PGS the only app to cause
the crash??
> (3) If you have another program that can stess your
system (a game would
> be good) in the same manner that PGS does?? Does it
crash the system
> as well? ...
> (1) Try memtest at http://www.memtest86.com/
...
> next up might be your power supply, (4) if you've added
onto your system
>  , drives, graphic card, sound card, beyond the spes of
the original
> power supply this would be the next thing to look
into.





------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
--------------------~--> 
Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/dV_rlB/TM

------------------------------------------------------------
--------~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http
://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-digest@yahoogroups.com 
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    PageStreamSupport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.c
om/info/terms/
 

--- In PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com, "Tom
Brown" <jojfrost...> 
wrote:
>
> Numbers in parentheses refer to questions in message I
am 
responding to.
> 
> (1) It appears that memtest86 is for Linux only. I
downloaded 
versions 3.2  
> and 3.3. The installation instructions in the readme
for both 
versions is  
> for Linux (talks about Makefile and Lilo).
> 

The ISO files are on the same page...
They are in the next section down.

Memtest86 3.3 Release (12/Jan/2007)
 
Download - Linux Memtest86 v3.3 Source and binary Package 
Download - Pre-Compiled Memtest86 v3.3 installable from
Windows and 
DOS

>>ISO images suitable for creating a bootable
Memtest86 CD-ROM
>>Download - Memtest86 v3.3 ISO image (zip) 
>>Download - Memtest86 v3.3 ISO image (gzip)






------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
--------------------~--> 
Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/dV_rlB/TM

------------------------------------------------------------
--------~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http
://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-digest@yahoogroups.com 
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    PageStreamSupport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.c
om/info/terms/
 

Hello,

On 27/02/2007, Tom Brown wrote:
TB> (1) It appears that memtest86 is for Linux only. I
downloaded versions 3.2  
TB> and 3.3. The installation instructions in the readme
for both versions is  
TB> for Linux (talks about Makefile and Lilo).

Not correct. 
On the same website you can download an ISO image. Burn it
on a CD and boot from it.
Or get the version called "installable from
Windows/DOS". You can write it onto a floppy disk, you
will then boot from.

Bye
-- 
Philippe 'Elwood' FERRUCCI
Project Manager
Amiga Translator Organisation
http://elwoodb.free.fr



------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
--------------------~--> 
See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/dV_rlB/TM

------------------------------------------------------------
--------~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http
://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-digest@yahoogroups.com 
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    PageStreamSupport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.c
om/info/terms/
 

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 12:32, Tom Brown wrote:
> Numbers in parentheses refer to questions in message I
am responding to.
>
> (1) It appears that memtest86 is for Linux only. I
downloaded versions 3.2
> and 3.3. The installation instructions in the readme
for both versions is
> for Linux (talks about Makefile and Lilo).

memtest86 is not for any platform: it runs independently.
You download and 
burn the provided ISO image to a cd and boot from that cd
(or boot floppy 
image to a floppy disk and boot from that disk). That's it.
You do need 
software that can burn an ISO image.

> (2) PageStream is the only program with frequent
crashes, which has been
> the case since I purchased it in March 2005. (4) The
Dell 4700 system is
> as delivered except that I increased the memory from .5
MB to 1.5 MB
> hoping to improve PageStream stability. PageStream
crashed before I made
> that change as well as after. And it is not just one
document or one
> operation that causes the crashes.
>
> Crashes occur even when PGS is the only application
running--antivirus and
> firewall being shutdown. (3) At various times I run
paradox 9 database,
> WordPerfect 12, PaintShop Pro 9 and XI, and three Web
browsers, among
> other applications, none of which crash. (3) I even run
Microsoft Train
> Simulator with no problem, and that certainly stresses
the system.

All of which would tend to indicate a problem with
PageStream, yes.

> Here are specifics for one current problem using PGS
5.0.3.4: sending a
> one-page, legal size document with five small JPG
images to my Lexmark Z22
> color inkjet causes PageStream to close. I have saved
the report Windows
> would have sent to Microsoft, in case it would be
useful. The driver for
> this printer is the latest available for XP. The
failure is solid and also
> occurs with PGS 5.0.1.37. However, if I save the page
as a PDF, that will
> print on this printer.

Disclaimer: I do not write windows print drivers, nor am I
an expert in them. 
This suggests to me a fault with the print driver. It may
well be the case 
that PageStream exposes a bug that other applications do not
because they do 
not need/use/exercise the same print features that
PageStream does.

> The same PGS file (30.5 MB) will print on my Brother
HL-1440 laser
> printer. But the page prints in negative if fast print
setup is selected.
> With fast print checked, the laser printer prints in
negative; with fast
> print cleared, it prints correctly. I thought I had
cleared up this
> negative printing problem last autumn when I first
downloaded
> Windows.prt.1.0c.zip. Since then I have uninstalled and
reinstalled the
> two versions of PGS that I have referred to and have
again downloaded and
> installed the Windows.prt.1.0c.zip printer driver,
after verifying the MD5
> checksum.

This supports the suggestion that it may be a bug in the
printer driver 
exposed by PageStream (the fast print is known to have
issues and reports of 
problems with it are welcome).

At the least the fact that you can:

1) reliably crash PgS printing this document to the Lexmark
Z22
2) reliably print the same document from PgS to the Brother
HL-1440

indicates that there is not a fundamental flaw in
PageStream's print system. 
If it were you would be unable to print the document in
question at all.

An alternative to the "PageStream exposes a bug in the
Lexmark driver" theory 
is that the "Lexmark driver exposes a bug in
PageStream". While I would lean 
to the former I can in no way rule out the latter at this
time. In either 
case the truly pertinent things are:

1) the document in question
2) the printer driver
3) the version of Windows (print system)
4) the version of PageStream

If I had that model of Lexmark printer (I do not) and the
same version of 
Windows as you (my work laptop runs WinXP which might or
might not have the 
same patches as yours) then by adjusting document contents I
might possibly 
be able to help isolate what is causing the problem.

However, given that I don't the best bet is to try the
isolation on your own 
and provide the document to Dan and Deron. While they may
not have a Lexmark 
Z22 either, Deron is much more familiar with print systems
than I am and may 
be able to determine what is causing the problem.

Tim Doty


 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http
://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-digest@yahoogroups.com 
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    PageStreamSupport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.c
om/info/terms/
 

Tom Brown wrote:

...snip...
> Crashes occur even when PGS is the only application
running--antivirus and  
> firewall being shutdown. (3) At various times I run
paradox 9 database,  
> WordPerfect 12, PaintShop Pro 9 and XI, and three Web
browsers, among  
> other applications, none of which crash. (3) I even run
Microsoft Train  
> Simulator with no problem, and that certainly stresses
the system.
>
> Here are specifics for one current problem using PGS
5.0.3.4: sending a  
> one-page, legal size document with five small JPG
images to my Lexmark Z22  
> color inkjet causes PageStream to close. I have saved
the report Windows  
> would have sent to Microsoft, in case it would be
useful. The driver for  
> this printer is the latest available for XP. The
failure is solid and also  
> occurs with PGS 5.0.1.37. However, if I save the page
as a PDF, that will  
> print on this printer.
>
> The same PGS file (30.5 MB) 
>   

...snip...

I did look at my (?) problem some months ago with PGS
5.0.3.4.
I had a faulted font, and each time a new page was loaded
PGS asked for 
that font again.
So the memory usage was fast filled. At about usage of 60 -
70 MByte, 
PGS crashes.
 From my earlier e-mail:
         Memory use starts from about 300 MB (no PGS is
running) to 360 
MB out of 2459 MB, and then PGS crashes, according to
Windows Task 
Management.
I did that trick again after the problem with the font was
gone. I 
opened as many documents till it reached that 60 - 70 MB
again... and 
PGS disappeared!

I am guessing your crashing has something to do with memory
using, 
although the other printer doesn't have that problem.

Why don't you use the latest PGS version? If there are
problems with 
your version, you can at least try the latest beta. You put
the other 
version in another map, and start from there (so your older
version is 
still there, in this way, to use!).

And I am wondering: you are using Windows.prt.1.0c.zip! This
is for the 
latest beta version, and might not work correct with PGS
5.0.1.37.

Happy hunting,

Theo



------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
--------------------~--> 
Something is new at Yahoo! Groups.  Check out the enhanced
email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/dV_rlB/TM

------------------------------------------------------------
--------~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http
://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PageStreamSupport/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-digest@yahoogroups.com 
    mailto:PageStreamSupport-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    PageStreamSupport-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.c
om/info/terms/