Re: Re: Weird little problem!

> ...In the Edit palette click on the button '¶' which will
>; reveal which "Paragraph style"; is in effect. I'm assuming
> also that you are using some 'personalized' style beyond
&gt; the PageStream given <No Style>.

Just for your information, Don:

Word has its own paragraph styles system. When you import from Word or
.RTF, the styles come along with the text and appear in the paragraph
styles palette and edit palettes of PageStream. Styles aren't optional
in Word. Everything has a paragraph style and many are (infuriatingly)
applied automatically, so you never get <No Style> with imported text.
And it's the Word styles that are appearing in the PageStream edit palette.

It's actually a nuisance because very few people, including myself when
I'm not thinking about it, store only the styles they need with Word
documents, so what gets imported is a Master Style sheet with everything
you've used in virtually any Word document and all the predefined styles
that Word has. There are zillions of them, and some of them are in
families; for instance, each level of outlined or bulleted text. You can
end up with dozens of styles that aren't used in the document itself
cluttering your PageStream document. For that reason, I frequently save
the Word document as text and import that. If you have your main
PageStream paragraph style in effect at that time, the text is formatted
accordingly, and you just apply appropriate styles to the exceptions or
import in appropriate sections, one PageStream style at a time.

On a side note, when you save a Word document as HTML, the same thing
happens. All styles are converted to XHTML format. (Word XHTML is fairly
clean as those things go, but not always accurate.)

Anyway that's another approach Frank could take that I didn't think of
when I replied to his original post---start by converting to text,
before importing. I did cover your method in my post, although I had so
much in there, it could easily be missed in the midst of all the
verbiage. And I deliberately left off those "+&quot; format problems because
I was already running on too long. In fact, they're pretty much
equivalent to the problem that Frank was getting with his imported text.
He didn't mention any +'s in his post, so I assumed the problem lay
within the styles imported from Word.

HB

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Greetings "Henry G Belot"; < hbelot%40ix.netcom.com">hbelotix.netcom.com>
On 04/04/2007 at 23:42 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamSupport] Re: Weird little problem!

Hi Henry,

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HB> Just for your information, Don:

Thanks.

HB> Word has its own paragraph styles system. When you
HB&gt; import from Word or .RTF, the styles come along with the
HB&gt; text and appear in the paragraph styles palette and edit
HB&gt; palettes of PageStream.

Ok, that I did not know. So Frank could have edited those
styles; i.e., the ones that were giving him problems and
delete the irrelevant ones. However, from what you write
below, it is probably a lot easier to follow your idea of
just importing plain text from Word and working with that.
Undoubtedly it would depend on the complexity of the
original document.

HB> Styles aren't optional in Word.

They are not optional in PageStream either! If you don't use
your own styles or the ones that come with the unpacked
version, then <No Style> is in effect.

HB> Everything has a paragraph style and many are
HB&gt; (infuriatingly) applied automatically, so you never get
HB&gt; <No Style> with imported text. And it's the Word styles
HB> that are appearing in the PageStream edit palette.

The 'automatic' application of some styles most certainly
does not sound like a blessing.

HB&gt; It's actually a nuisance because very few people,
HB> including myself when I'm not thinking about it, store
HB> only the styles they need with Word documents, so what
HB&gt; gets imported is a Master Style sheet with everything
HB> you've used in virtually any Word document and all the
HB&gt; predefined styles that Word has. There are zillions of
HB>; them, and some of them are in families; for instance,
HB> each level of outlined or bulleted text. You can end up
HB>; with dozens of styles that aren't used in the document
HB> itself cluttering your PageStream document.

Does sound a bit excessive. I have a basic stable of
nine styles which suffice for the majority of the docs, and
for more elaborate docs, one can just 'Load' or 'Append'
additional scripts from "Window -> Show Script Palette&quot;. In
this manner, you use only the scripts you need and it can
be set up quickly and easily. PageStream does it ALL!

HB&gt; For that
HB&gt; reason, I frequently save the Word document as text and
HB&gt; import that.

Yes, that is what I alluded to above. Sounds like a good
idea here.

HB> If you have your main PageStream paragraph
HB> style in effect at that time, the text is formatted
HB> accordingly, and you just apply appropriate styles to
HB>; the exceptions or import in appropriate sections, one
HB&gt; PageStream style at a time.

Yes.

<<snip>>

Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
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