Re: Links

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> Von: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: 20.08.07 12:26:59
> 
> On 19/08/07, joelpramos wrote:
> 
> > I have another question.
> > 
> > Is it possible to create links inside the pdf to
webpages?
> > 
> Why would you want to do that?
> 
> Isn't a PDF a portable document for printing?
> 
> There is HTML for web displays.
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> Don Cox
> doncoxenterprise.net

Come on, Don. The answer is very simple.

Because it looks good, is fine for every customer, and for
multi-channel products it is the standard today.
Only printing is for me like last century. Not only for
me...

So again: Is it possible to create links inside the pdf to
webpages?

Ciao,

Peter alias
Thoddoweb.de


 
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Peter Drexler wrote:
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>> Gesendet: 20.08.07 12:26:59
>>
>> On 19/08/07, joelpramos wrote:
>>
>>> I have another question.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to create links inside the pdf
to webpages?
>>>
>> Why would you want to do that?
>>
>> Isn't a PDF a portable document for printing?
>>
>> There is HTML for web displays.
>>
>> Regards
>> -- 
>> Don Cox
>> doncoxenterprise.net
> 
> Come on, Don. The answer is very simple.
> 
> Because it looks good, is fine for every customer, and
for multi-channel products it is the standard today.
> Only printing is for me like last century. Not only for
me...
> 
> So again: Is it possible to create links inside the pdf
to webpages?

Come on, Peter, PageStream is a desktop publishing tool, not
an HTML 
editor. Desktop publishing produces printed material. If you
want an 
HTML editor, buy one.

All-in-ones are never as good as stand-alones. When you try
to make one 
tool do everything, each thing it does tends to interfere
with 
everything else it does.

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On Monday 20 August 2007, David L. Stevens wrote:
> Peter Drexler wrote:
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> >> Gesendet: 20.08.07 12:26:59
> >>
> >> On 19/08/07, joelpramos wrote:
> >>> I have another question.
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible to create links inside the
pdf to webpages?
> >>
> >> Why would you want to do that?
> >>
> >> Isn't a PDF a portable document for printing?
> >>
> >> There is HTML for web displays.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> --
> >> Don Cox
> >> doncoxenterprise.net
> >
> > Come on, Don. The answer is very simple.
> >
> > Because it looks good, is fine for every customer,
and for multi-channel
> > products it is the standard today. Only printing
is for me like last
> > century. Not only for me...
> >
> > So again: Is it possible to create links inside
the pdf to webpages?
>
> Come on, Peter, PageStream is a desktop publishing
tool, not an HTML
> editor. Desktop publishing produces printed material.
If you want an
> HTML editor, buy one.
>
> All-in-ones are never as good as stand-alones. When you
try to make one
> tool do everything, each thing it does tends to
interfere with
> everything else it does.

There is nothing wrong with linking to a web page from a
PDF. PageStream 
supports export to PDF making this a natural request.

*Because* PgS is a DTP program it is particularly suited to
making PDFs (as 
opposed to generating HTML which is a poor fit). There are
many capabilities 
of the PDF format that are not available from PgS that are
natural fits for 
it. For example, (PDF) bookmarks derived from the chapter
layout or article 
threads (seeing as PgS already *has* the concept of an
article).

I recently put together a PDF for work as a replacement for
using Blackboard 
to presnt the content of course (which I hope you never have
the displeasure 
of working with). The original course material included
links to other 
resources. It is not appropriate, nor is it possible, to
include all of these 
resources in the course material itself. It would definitely
have been 
helpful to be able to insert web links in the relevant
places. In fact, 
having the chapter layout would be a boon for that document
and even more so 
for my Opus which currently spans five documents and weighs
in at around 
1,000 pages. In fact, the PDF support for bundling separate
documents into a 
single object with cross linking comes to mind...

Tim Doty


 
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Tim Doty wrote:
> On Monday 20 August 2007, David L. Stevens wrote:
>> Peter Drexler wrote:
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Gesendet: 20.08.07 12:26:59
>>>>
>>>> On 19/08/07, joelpramos wrote:
>>>>> I have another question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to create links inside
the pdf to webpages?
>>>> Why would you want to do that?
>>>>
>>>> Isn't a PDF a portable document for
printing?
>>>>
>>>> There is HTML for web displays.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> --
>>>> Don Cox
>>>> doncoxenterprise.net
>>> Come on, Don. The answer is very simple.
>>>
>>> Because it looks good, is fine for every
customer, and for multi-channel
>>> products it is the standard today. Only
printing is for me like last
>>> century. Not only for me...
>>>
>>> So again: Is it possible to create links inside
the pdf to webpages?
>> Come on, Peter, PageStream is a desktop publishing
tool, not an HTML
>> editor. Desktop publishing produces printed
material. If you want an
>> HTML editor, buy one.
>>
>> All-in-ones are never as good as stand-alones. When
you try to make one
>> tool do everything, each thing it does tends to
interfere with
>> everything else it does.
> 
> There is nothing wrong with linking to a web page from
a PDF. PageStream 
> supports export to PDF making this a natural request.
> 
> *Because* PgS is a DTP program it is particularly
suited to making PDFs (as 
> opposed to generating HTML which is a poor fit). There
are many capabilities 
> of the PDF format that are not available from PgS that
are natural fits for 
> it. For example, (PDF) bookmarks derived from the
chapter layout or article 
> threads (seeing as PgS already *has* the concept of an
article).
> 
> I recently put together a PDF for work as a replacement
for using Blackboard 
> to presnt the content of course (which I hope you never
have the displeasure 
> of working with). The original course material included
links to other 
> resources. It is not appropriate, nor is it possible,
to include all of these 
> resources in the course material itself. It would
definitely have been 
> helpful to be able to insert web links in the relevant
places. In fact, 
> having the chapter layout would be a boon for that
document and even more so 
> for my Opus which currently spans five documents and
weighs in at around 
> 1,000 pages. In fact, the PDF support for bundling
separate documents into a 
> single object with cross linking comes to mind...

Including clip art and other graphics? Which version of
PageStream are 
you using? Graphics all come out the wrong sizes and in the
wrong places 
in pdfs I try to make from PageStream up through 5.0.3.4
beta. Not to 
mention masks.

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          Windows XP user (:^(> on Acer Aspire 9810 2.16
GHz Notebook
          2 GB RAM; 2 120-GB Hard Drives; CanoScan LIDE 20
          Canon i860 & Brother HL-5050 PageStream
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On Monday 20 August 2007, David L. Stevens wrote:
> Tim Doty wrote:
> > On Monday 20 August 2007, David L. Stevens wrote:
> >> Peter Drexler wrote:
> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>> Von:
PageStreamSupport@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Gesendet: 20.08.07 12:26:59
> >>>>
> >>>> On 19/08/07, joelpramos wrote:
> >>>>> I have another question.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it possible to create links
inside the pdf to webpages?
> >>>>
> >>>> Why would you want to do that?
> >>>>
> >>>> Isn't a PDF a portable document for
printing?
> >>>>
> >>>> There is HTML for web displays.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> --
> >>>> Don Cox
> >>>> doncoxenterprise.net
> >>>
> >>> Come on, Don. The answer is very simple.
> >>>
> >>> Because it looks good, is fine for every
customer, and for
> >>> multi-channel products it is the standard
today. Only printing is for
> >>> me like last century. Not only for me...
> >>>
> >>> So again: Is it possible to create links
inside the pdf to webpages?
> >>
> >> Come on, Peter, PageStream is a desktop
publishing tool, not an HTML
> >> editor. Desktop publishing produces printed
material. If you want an
> >> HTML editor, buy one.
> >>
> >> All-in-ones are never as good as stand-alones.
When you try to make one
> >> tool do everything, each thing it does tends
to interfere with
> >> everything else it does.
> >
> > There is nothing wrong with linking to a web page
from a PDF. PageStream
> > supports export to PDF making this a natural
request.
> >
> > *Because* PgS is a DTP program it is particularly
suited to making PDFs
> > (as opposed to generating HTML which is a poor
fit). There are many
> > capabilities of the PDF format that are not
available from PgS that are
> > natural fits for it. For example, (PDF) bookmarks
derived from the
> > chapter layout or article threads (seeing as PgS
already *has* the
> > concept of an article).
> >
> > I recently put together a PDF for work as a
replacement for using
> > Blackboard to presnt the content of course (which
I hope you never have
> > the displeasure of working with). The original
course material included
> > links to other resources. It is not appropriate,
nor is it possible, to
> > include all of these resources in the course
material itself. It would
> > definitely have been helpful to be able to insert
web links in the
> > relevant places. In fact, having the chapter
layout would be a boon for
> > that document and even more so for my Opus which
currently spans five
> > documents and weighs in at around 1,000 pages. In
fact, the PDF support
> > for bundling separate documents into a single
object with cross linking
> > comes to mind...
>
> Including clip art and other graphics? Which version of
PageStream are
> you using? Graphics all come out the wrong sizes and in
the wrong places
> in pdfs I try to make from PageStream up through
5.0.3.4 beta. Not to
> mention masks.

I use 5.0.3.4 -- but I thought I mentioned higher up about
these bugs. Or was 
that one of the emails that yahoo kept bouncing? There are
known problems 
with the PDF export. I think I've filed bugs on them. Maybe
I'll check 
tomorrow.

Tim Doty


 
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David:

>>> ...Isn't a PDF a portable document for
printing?
>>>       

It's a portable document, yes. Exclusively for printing?
Absolutely not.

> ...Come on, Peter, PageStream is a desktop publishing
tool, not an HTML 
> editor. Desktop publishing produces printed material.

This reminds me of the argument that raged years ago on the
list about 
whether we should have a PDF option at all. It took a long
time, but 
Deron finally settled it, and we have the tool we have now,
however 
problematic it may be just now.

HB


 
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