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Re: Default dpi
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Canada
2008-03-13 20:30:55

Hello Henry

On 03/11/2008, you wrote:

> Bart:
>
>> I have learned to keep in mind that it also matters to one's printer.
>>
>> Lesson learned when I dragged 12 large photos (jpg) down enough in
>> size so that I could get them all on one Letter-size sheet.
>
> This one I've heard about before. I'm curious to know more about it.
>
> What's the equipment involved? The only PostScript printer I have is an
> old HP B&W inkjet(!) that sits in a closet. I used it up to around 2000
> and, in those days it was mostly with my Amiga and mostly many fewer
> images. My experience "ripping" (if that's the right word) PDFs tells
> me that dragging an image to a smaller size reduces the usable
> resolution when you print, but that the full-size image is still in the
> PDF and, presumably, it would be part of a PostScript file as well. So,
> it's understandable that the PostScript file would grow in size even
>; with typical JPEGs or other compression schemes.

I print with an HP Color Laserjet 2605dn. Saw them advertised for $300 the
other day. I suppose it was worth an extra $200 not to have to wait for a
little over a year to print anything.

As I recall, I ran out of memory two ways. One, as Tim Doty guessed,
printer memory. I printed a PS document to a "file" called "prt:" and it
went directly to printer memory. I intend to increase my printer's memory
one of these days; whether that will solve this problem or not remains to
be seen. If I were a printer, I'd start printing when I got the top of the
page, instead of waiting for the whole thing, but I'm not. (For all I
know, the whole page comes in layers of colors.)

I often print first to ram:, then copy the file to prt: But OS4 decided I
had filled up enough of the free 441mb of memory available, and quit
converting the file to ram:.

> [Omited query already answered above]

> As far as printing 12 or more images on a page, I've only down that
>; with photo catalogs, and then only once or twice. Cataloging programs
> normally will take care of the whole job, providing suitable captions
> and employing thumbnails for the pictures. But since you're going to
> PostScript from PageStream, you're obviously not doing that. Are the
> images originating from full-resolution files? If so, that seems a
> waste of bandwidth. But creating separate versions for the documents is
> likewise a waste of your human bandwidth if it can avoided.

Printing 12 to a page wasn't my original purpose. I took the pictures in
order to count stream crossings on a couple of hikes. It was necessary to
take pictures, because in my dotage I tend to get confused counting,
somewhere between 2 and about 3, if anything happens in between. (I
suppose I could have put a pebble in my pocket at each crossing, and
counted the pebbles later, but in my dotage I don't always think of second
ways to do things in time.)

By coindence, the first stream had 12 crossings. I say this is a
coincidence, because 12=3x4, and I realized that I could print all 12
crossing pictures on a single page, four rows of three reduced photos each.

This worked very well with the first stream, because I had happened to take
them at 640x480x24. But when I did the second stream, coincidentally with
12 crossings again(!), I had resolution set to 2048x1536x24, about nine
times as big. Then, without realiizing the difference, I tried to print
them via PgS the same way as the first batch.

Now I have my choice of using Thumb with larger-than-default thumbnails, or
shrinking the jpegs down. I think I have more than one way to do that, but
I usually just "minus" them in PicShow and recopy with SGrab_OS4. The job
has been de-prioritized, obviously below the priority of writing
excessively long posts to user groups.

Bart

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Re: Re: Default dpi
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-13 21:27:36

Bart:

>> ...What's the equipment involved?
>> I print with an HP Color Laserjet 2605dn....
>>
>> As I recall, I ran out of memory two ways. One, as Tim Doty guessed,
>> printer memory.
>>>;> ...I intend to increase my printer's memory
>>>> one of these days;...

Yeah. Ever since the manufacturers figured out that they made more money
selling you ink or toner, there's no such thing as a "bargain" printer.
But, memory is usually cheap, so it's worth a shot to expand it.

> Printing 12 to a page wasn't my original purpose. I took the pictures in
> order to count stream crossings on a couple of hikes. It was necessary to
> take pictures, because in my dotage I tend to get confused counting,
> somewhere between 2 and about 3, if anything happens in between.

Love it. I know the problem. But, you're doing better than me. I
gave up on hiking years ago in my 30s after my left leg froze up on me
and I had to be helped out on a makeshift brace. Not very much later, my
back went on me just as I was about to go canoeing. I went anyway. For
some reason the rowing position didn't tax it, but I spent the following
week in bed on my nurse-practitioner's orders with a stack of sandwiches
in a cooler beside me to minimize my "up" time. They both still bother
me occasionally, and two-hours of walking the dog in the park each day
is all my hiking these days. It does seem to help keep the leg going
okay, though. I definitely do not run.

> ...Now I have my choice of using Thumb with larger-than-default thumbnails, or
> shrinking the jpegs down.

If you really like the pix, copy, then shrink. But, yes, I'd think that
would do the job given your experience with the previous set of pix.

Too bad new print drivers have never become a priority in Amiga
"development." It will be interesting to see what comes after the
trial(s). But, I'm afraid you diehards are becoming even more of a
vanishing breed because of the turmoil. It's really too bad. Everyone
who's ever owned the company has screwed it up, including Commodore. And
none of them have been exemplars of "ethical business practices"
(practically an oxymoron). So many forget that.

HB

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