Greetings "PageStream Support" < deron%40pagestream.org">deron
pagestream.org>
On 08/06/2008 at 04:21 you wrote concerning
Re: [PageStreamSupport] PageStream permanently cropped my source images.
Hi Deron,
Glad to read that you are still functioning and have not been washed away in the
recent rains in your part of the world. 
As to
PS> It sounds like either something else is to blame, or you are leaving
PS> some steps out. PageStream has _no_ code to destructively crop an image
PS> so you couldn't have done it in PageStream even by accident or bug.
PS> Second, the only way to change an external image from within PageStream
PS> is to export over the existing external image or use the send to editor
PS> script. Maybe you did that? BME can crop an destructively. So if you
PS> select the image in PageStream, choose Send to Editor, crop it in BME,
PS> save it and quit BME and when you return to PageStream the image will
PS> update (and of course be cropped/edited as you did in BME or whatever
PS> image editor you have set as your editor in PageStream).
I have never experienced what WoodenFlures describes using PageStream 4.1.5.6
and I have performed a lot of 'crops' via PageStream without accessing BME to do
so.
Relative the fact that one can destroy an original using BME and replace it by a
cropped version:
Yes, but one would have to explicitly order BME to do so, and BME will not
necessarily warn you about overwriting the original. I.E., load a photo file
into BME and then crop it; in half, for example. Now call out
Project -> Save
set the parameters for saving and then hit OK. Your original photo file is
replaced by the cropped-half. One should have used
Project -> Save As...
and assign a new filename for the cropped version, assuming that you want to
retain the original.
In trying to replicate what happened to WoodenFlutes I could not do it unless I
followed the steps that Deron gave above. In PageStream, when you apply
File -> Save
or
File -> Save as...
you are saving the entire PageStream file, not just an object which happens to
be a photo and is active.
PS> The crop tool in PageStream is certainly not destructive!
Not in my experience, but I cannot recall whether I've ever 'grouped' two or
more photos together after cropping both.
So I tried it! Copied two photos into Ram; loaded them from Ram into PageStream;
cropped both WITHIN PageStream -- no meddling with BME; then grouped the two
photos and saved the resulting PageStream file back into Ram (with a new name
for the PageStream file). The original photos in Ram were not altered.
Fortunately, I have not been able to replicate your claim WoodenFlutes.
PS>> I'm not sure how exactly this happened, but it seems that the crop
PS>> function in PageStream (Amiga 4.1.x) permanently cropped my source
PS>> images.
PS>>
PS>> I was using several high resolution TIFFs in PageStream (as external
PS>> images). I cropped the images within PageStream using the crop
PS>> pointer. I also grouped several of the cropped images.
PS>>
PS>> The next day, I decided to try a whole different layout approach, and
PS>> so ungrouped the images. Then I tried to "uncrop" them. I wasn't
PS>> able to.
PS>>
PS>> Upon loading the external images into an image editor (ImageFX) I
PS>> found that the external source images had been cropped where I had
PS>> done this in PageStream. They had actually been altered to the point
PS>> where data (portions of the image) were now gone forever.
PS>>
PS>> I always thought the crop pointer function in PageStream was non-
PS>> destructive! I was very surprised at this, and am not entirely sure
PS>> how I accomplished it. Perhaps it was a function of cropping and
PS>> grouping the images together.
PS>>;
PS>>
Cheers Don (Green Dragon)
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