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Newbie questions
country flaguser name
United States		 2007-08-22 13:02:09 
I just installed 7.04 Xubuntu and am having trouble getting
information 
from my TREO 700p to my computer.

I start a Hot Sync on the TREO and it goes through a cycle
where it 
appears to transfer data, but I cannot find it.

How do I start gnome-pilot manually? Thanks.
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Re: Newbie questions
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United Kingdom		 2007-08-22 13:30:25 
Hey Pete,

Open a terminal, then try one of these two:
/usr/libexec/gpilotd
/usr/bin/gpilotd

If it's neither of those (which seems unlikely), then try
`locate 
gpilotd` which should return the location of the
executable.

Cheers,


Callum.

Pete Holsberg wrote:
> I just installed 7.04 Xubuntu and am having trouble
getting information 
> from my TREO 700p to my computer.
>
> I start a Hot Sync on the TREO and it goes through a
cycle where it 
> appears to transfer data, but I cannot find it.
>
> How do I start gnome-pilot manually? Thanks.
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Re: Newbie questions
country flaguser name
United States		 2007-08-22 15:00:49 
Callum Macdonald wrote:
> Hey Pete,
>
> Open a terminal, then try one of these two:
> /usr/libexec/gpilotd
> /usr/bin/gpilotd
>   

The latter worked. When I hit the HotSync button on my PDA,
I saw that a 
backup was being performed and lots of stuff was being
written to 
$HOME/MyPDA.

Two questions:

1) is there some kind of PIM (like Palm Desktop for Windows)
that I can 
use to see the data?

2) Is there a way to capture the output of gpilotd in the
terminal window?

Many thanks.
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Re: Newbie questions
country flaguser name
United States		 2007-08-22 19:38:36 

  


  

    
Callum Macdonald keyed the following on 8/22/2007 7:51 PM:

> Hey Pete,

> 

> Second question first, yes you can pipe the output to a file from 

> gpilotd. The command that works for me (it may not be the best way
of

> doing it, but it does work for me) is this: /usr/bin/gpilotd >

>; /path/to/some/file 2>&1

> 

> This pipes both the standard out and the error out to the file.
I've

> read about how piping errors works, but I can't remember it all off

> the top of my head. I know that works for me!



That sends stdout of gpilotd to the file (but it's not on the screen,
is it?) and sends errout (2) to the same place as stdout (1)

> 

> First question second, you can setup gpilot to sync with Evolution,

> so you could view the data there.



How does one do that? Running gpilotd in terminal doesn't give me a
window with options.




> If you don't want to use
Evolution, the simplest option might be

> jpilot. It works for me via USB. You need to stop gpilotd, it's not

> used at all, and use jpilot to sync. It's based on Palm Desktop,
but

> it's quite old I think, so it doesn't support some of the newer

> features (datebook categories, multiple addresses), if I remember


> correctly.



Thanks.



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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2007-08-22 22:25:37
  


  

    
Callum Macdonald wrote:
> First question second, you can setup gpilot to sync
with Evolution, so 
> you could view the data there. If you don't want to use
Evolution, the 
> simplest option might be jpilot. It works for me via
USB. You need to 
> stop gpilotd, it's not used at all, and use jpilot to
sync. It's based 
> on Palm Desktop, but it's quite old I think, so it
doesn't support some 
> of the newer features (datebook categories, multiple
addresses), if I 
> remember correctly.
>   
Installed jpilot and it run but doesn't make the connection
via 
/dev/pilot. ThePDA times out.

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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2007-08-23 06:01:42
  


  

    
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 23:25 -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:
> Installed jpilot and it run but doesn't make the
connection via 
> /dev/pilot. ThePDA times out. 

What do your udev rules look like? Which physical device
does your Palm
present itself as? (0 or 1?) 

There's a detailed README I wrote on getting this to work
properly: 

http://www.pilot
-link.org/README.usb

And if you want to try using libusb (faster sync, no kernel
module): 

http://www.pi
lot-link.org/README.libusb

Good luck!


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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2007-08-23 08:52:10
  


  

    
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 14:17 +0100, Callum Macdonald wrote:
> If you also want to watch it while it runs, you can
open a second
> terminal window and use `tail -f /path/to/some/file`. 

TMTOWTDI... use tee(1) 

/usr/bin/foo | tee -a /tmp/output.log


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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2007-08-23 16:49:35
  


  

    

  


  

    
David A. Desrosiers wrote:

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On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 23:25 -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:
  

  

    
Installed jpilot and it run but doesn't make the connection via 
/dev/pilot. ThePDA times out. 
    

  

  

What do your udev rules look like? Which physical device does your Palm
present itself as? (0 or 1?) 

There's a detailed README I wrote on getting this to work properly: 

http://www.pilot-link.org/README.usb

And if you want to try using libusb (faster sync, no kernel module): 

http://www.pilot-link.org/README.libusb


Good luck!






I don't get a 1:1 correspondence to what you wrote, impressive as it is.



In kern.log, I see (when I connect the TREO tot the cable):



Aug 23 17:45:26 linux kernel: [117652.389706] usb 2-1: new full speed
USB device using uhci_hcd and address 57

Aug 23 17:45:26 linux kernel: [117652.563492] usb 2-1: configuration #1
chosen from 1 choice

Aug 23 17:45:26 linux kernel: [117652.568350] visor 2-1:1.0: Handspring
Visor / Palm OS converter detected


Aug 23 17:45:26 linux kernel: [117652.568697] usb 2-1: Handspring Visor
/ Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0

Aug 23 17:45:26 linux kernel: [117652.568814] usb 2-1: Handspring Visor
/ Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1





When I hit the Hot Sync button, I get



Aug 23 17:46:15 linux kernel: [117701.459636] usb 2-1: USB disconnect,
address 57

Aug 23 17:46:15 linux kernel: [117701.459940] visor ttyUSB0: Handspring
Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0

Aug 23 17:46:15 linux kernel: [117701.460038] visor ttyUSB1: Handspring
Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1

Aug 23 17:46:15 linux kernel: [117701.460058] visor 2-1:1.0: device
disconnected

Aug 23 17:46:16 linux kernel: [117702.218275] usb 2-1: new full speed
USB device using uhci_hcd and address 58

Aug 23 17:46:16 linux kernel: [117702.391552] usb 2-1: configuration #1
chosen from 1 choice

Aug 23 17:46:16 linux kernel: [117702.396452] visor 2-1:1.0: Handspring
Visor / Palm OS converter detected


Aug 23 17:46:16 linux kernel: [117702.396839] usb 2-1: Handspring Visor
/ Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0

Aug 23 17:46:16 linux kernel: [117702.396954] usb 2-1: Handspring Visor
/ Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1



When I then try 


pilot-dlpsh -p /dev/ttyUSB1

I get

   ERROR: Specify exactly one of -c or -i

I'm using Xubuntu 7.04

Thanks.



  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
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     2007-08-23 16:55:27
  


  

    

  


  

    
Pete Holsberg wrote:

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When I then try 

  
pilot-dlpsh -p /dev/ttyUSB1

I get

   ERROR: Specify exactly one of -c or -i

I'm using Xubuntu 7.04
  






pjhlinux:~$ pilot-dlpsh -i -p /dev/pilot

  

   Listening for incoming connection on /dev/pilot... 





And then it waits and waits




ditto for ttyUSB[01]




  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
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     2007-08-23 19:03:05
  


  

    
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 17:55 -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote:
> > pjhlinux:~$ pilot-dlpsh -i -p /dev/pilot
> >
> >    Listening for incoming connection on
/dev/pilot...
> 
> And then it waits and waits
> 
> ditto for ttyUSB[01] 

And this is AFTER you've manually killed off any possible
running
gpilotd processes, right? (killall -9 gpilotd)


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