z22 F7 problem

Dear All,

I am not sure if this is the right forum to request help. If
it's not,
please accept my apologies and ignore this message. If it
is, perhaps
one of you can help me as I'm at the end of my rope.

After successfully syncing my palm Z22 with Evolution
calendar with
gpilot for more than a year in Fedora Core 6, I am no longer
able to
sync with F7. From the moment I 'upgraded' to F7, the sync
stopped
working.

It's not that the sync gets stuck halfway or so. I can see
the USB
connection taking place when I plug the Z22's USB cable into
my machine
(dmesg) but that is where everything stops.

here's a few things I tried:

1. run gpilot as root and sync
2. deleted all info in ~/.gnome2/.gnome-pilot.d
3. yum deleted gnome-pilot and evolution and reinstalled
them
4. I am successfully syncing to Windows and Ubuntu (same
cable) but I do
not want to move to those platforms (switching cost too
high).
5. most every other 'trick' or workaround I have been able
to find on
the web (for a complete list of my effort see:

 
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showth
read.php?p=819401#post819401 

I am not a systems person, but I LOVE my Linux machine, my
little Z22
and Evolution and it worked so well for so long in FC6. Can
anyone take
me by the hand and help me? I'm getting pretty desperate.

RR
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----- Original Message -----
From: Reitsma, Rene - COB
Time: 29-09-07 02:03
> Dear All,
> 
> I am not sure if this is the right forum to request
help. If it's not,
> please accept my apologies and ignore this message. If
it is, perhaps
> one of you can help me as I'm at the end of my rope.
> 
> After successfully syncing my palm Z22 with Evolution
calendar with
> gpilot for more than a year in Fedora Core 6, I am no
longer able to
> sync with F7. From the moment I 'upgraded' to F7, the
sync stopped
> working.

Same for me here, it was not FC7, but is was also
"some" upgrade that
made it stop working, I suspect a kernel upgrade where the
usb timing
has changed...
May I ask you what kernel you are using, and what the
version of udev is?
> 
> It's not that the sync gets stuck halfway or so. I can
see the USB
> connection taking place when I plug the Z22's USB cable
into my machine
> (dmesg) but that is where everything stops.
I have the same results
> 
> here's a few things I tried:
> 
> 1. run gpilot as root and sync
> 2. deleted all info in ~/.gnome2/.gnome-pilot.d
> 3. yum deleted gnome-pilot and evolution and
reinstalled them
> 4. I am successfully syncing to Windows and Ubuntu
(same cable) but I do
> not want to move to those platforms (switching cost too
high).
> 5. most every other 'trick' or workaround I have been
able to find on
> the web (for a complete list of my effort see:
> 
>  
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showth
read.php?p=819401#post819401 
mine is here 
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome
-pilot-list/2007-September/msg00003.html
> 
> I am not a systems person, but I LOVE my Linux machine,
my little Z22
> and Evolution and it worked so well for so long in FC6.
Can anyone take
> me by the hand and help me? I'm getting pretty
desperate.

Same here again, I will keep trying, but for the moment I do
have no
idea what to try anymore...

Kind regards,
Tom
> 
> RR
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Billiet
Time: 29-09-07 11:20
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Reitsma, Rene - COB
> Time: 29-09-07 02:03
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am not sure if this is the right forum to request
help. If it's not,
>> please accept my apologies and ignore this message.
If it is, perhaps
>> one of you can help me as I'm at the end of my
rope.
>>
>> After successfully syncing my palm Z22 with
Evolution calendar with
>> gpilot for more than a year in Fedora Core 6, I am
no longer able to
>> sync with F7. From the moment I 'upgraded' to F7,
the sync stopped
>> working.
> 
> Same for me here, it was not FC7, but is was also
"some" upgrade that
> made it stop working, I suspect a kernel upgrade where
the usb timing
> has changed...
>
> [snap]
>

okay, I've been looking somewhat further and made some
progress.

I've hacked the pilot-link usb.c file, and now I can use
"pilot-xfer -l
-p usb:", I've never been able to use this before, and
it works now
every time, so that's definitively a progress, hooray 
I'll attach my patch. Please notice that this is a very ugly
hack and
will break support for other devices in pilot-link, but it's
just a
test. Other z22 users, please try and report...

Now so far for the good news, gpilotd is still not working.
It's now
already doing something (spitting out the same "USING
NET" messages as
using visor), but still no sync...

Regards,
Tom

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Tom

You are so far ahead of me, it's scary. I checked your patch
and did the
following finds as root

>cd /
>find . -mount -name usb.c (-mount because I have a bunch
of Windows
file systems mounted that I don't need/want  to search) 
and
>find . -mount -name libpisock

None of these finds returns anything. I suspect that this is
kernel code
source code that I don't have? I use no other pilot devices
than the
Z22, so I don't mind if I " will break support for
other devices in
pilot-link" (I think).

What's my next step?

RR

-----Original Message-----
From: gnome-pilot-list-bouncesgnome.org
[mailto:gnome-pilot-list-bouncesgnome.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Billiet
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:40 PM
To: The PalmOS< tm> integration pacakge
Subject: Re: z22 F7 problem



----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Billiet
Time: 29-09-07 11:20
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Reitsma, Rene - COB
> Time: 29-09-07 02:03
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I am not sure if this is the right forum to request
help. If it's 
>> not, please accept my apologies and ignore this
message. If it is, 
>> perhaps one of you can help me as I'm at the end of
my rope.
>>
>> After successfully syncing my palm Z22 with
Evolution calendar with 
>> gpilot for more than a year in Fedora Core 6, I am
no longer able to 
>> sync with F7. From the moment I 'upgraded' to F7,
the sync stopped 
>> working.
> 
> Same for me here, it was not FC7, but is was also
"some" upgrade that 
> made it stop working, I suspect a kernel upgrade where
the usb timing 
> has changed...
>
> [snap]
>

okay, I've been looking somewhat further and made some
progress.

I've hacked the pilot-link usb.c file, and now I can use
"pilot-xfer -l
-p usb:", I've never been able to use this before, and
it works now
every time, so that's definitively a progress, hooray  I'll
attach my
patch. Please notice that this is a very ugly hack and will
break
support for other devices in pilot-link, but it's just a
test. Other z22
users, please try and report...

Now so far for the good news, gpilotd is still not working.
It's now
already doing something (spitting out the same "USING
NET" messages as
using visor), but still no sync...

Regards,
Tom
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Quoting "Reitsma, Rene - COB" <reitsmarbus.oregonstate.edu>:

> Tom
> 
> You are so far ahead of me, it's scary. I checked your
patch and did
> the
> following finds as root
> 
> >cd /
> >find . -mount -name usb.c (-mount because I have a
bunch of Windows
> file systems mounted that I don't need/want  to search)
 and
> >find . -mount -name libpisock
> 
> None of these finds returns anything. I suspect that
this is kernel
> code
> source code that I don't have? I use no other pilot
devices than the
> Z22, so I don't mind if I " will break support for
other devices in
> pilot-link" (I think).
> 
> What's my next step?
> 
> RR

I think you are searching in the gnome-pilot source code.
This fix is
for the pilot-link code (www.pilot-link.org), which is the
underlying
layer for gnome-pilot. pilot-xfer is also a tool that is
provided by
pilot-link...

Regards,
Tom
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Tom,

Just to be on the safe side; gnome-pilot on my machine was
installed
with 'yum install.' Am I to understand that I should
uninstall it,
download the sources and do a command line install
(configure, make,
make install)?

RR

-----Original Message-----
From: gnome-pilot-list-bouncesgnome.org
[mailto:gnome-pilot-list-bouncesgnome.org] On Behalf Of
mouse256
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:22 AM
To: The PalmOS< tm> integration pacakge
Subject: RE: z22 F7 problem

Quoting "Reitsma, Rene - COB" <reitsmarbus.oregonstate.edu>:

> Tom
> 
> You are so far ahead of me, it's scary. I checked your
patch and did
> the
> following finds as root
> 
> >cd /
> >find . -mount -name usb.c (-mount because I have a
bunch of Windows
> file systems mounted that I don't need/want  to search)
 and
> >find . -mount -name libpisock
> 
> None of these finds returns anything. I suspect that
this is kernel
> code
> source code that I don't have? I use no other pilot
devices than the
> Z22, so I don't mind if I " will break support for
other devices in
> pilot-link" (I think).
> 
> What's my next step?
> 
> RR

I think you are searching in the gnome-pilot source code.
This fix is
for the pilot-link code (www.pilot-link.org), which is the
underlying
layer for gnome-pilot. pilot-xfer is also a tool that is
provided by
pilot-link...

Regards,
Tom
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----- Original Message -----
From: Reitsma, Rene - COB
Time: 03-10-07 22:20
> Tom,
> 
> Just to be on the safe side; gnome-pilot on my machine
was installed
> with 'yum install.' Am I to understand that I should
uninstall it,
> download the sources and do a command line install
(configure, make,
> make install)?
> 

No, gnome-pilot most likely has a dependecy on pilot-link,
which was for
that reason also installed when you installed gnome-pilot.
The patch I
made is for pilot-link, not gnome-pilot (but as gnome-pilot
uses
pilot-link it will affect gnome-pilot too)

So you have to download the sources from pilot-link, patch
them, compile
and install them, you do not need to reinstall gnome-pilot.

Regards,
Tom
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Tom,

Thanks for that advice. I'm not ignoring it bust the last
two days were
real busy for me and this morning I had reserved to try out
your usb.c
patch; however, www.pilot-link.org seems to be down (bit
ironic, isn't
it). I will keep at it, though.

RR

-----Original Message-----
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Billiet
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:38 AM
To: The PalmOS< tm> integration pacakge
Subject: Re: z22 F7 problem



----- Original Message -----
From: Reitsma, Rene - COB
Time: 03-10-07 22:20
> Tom,
> 
> Just to be on the safe side; gnome-pilot on my machine
was installed
> with 'yum install.' Am I to understand that I should
uninstall it,
> download the sources and do a command line install
(configure, make,
> make install)?
> 

No, gnome-pilot most likely has a dependecy on pilot-link,
which was for
that reason also installed when you installed gnome-pilot.
The patch I
made is for pilot-link, not gnome-pilot (but as gnome-pilot
uses
pilot-link it will affect gnome-pilot too)

So you have to download the sources from pilot-link, patch
them, compile
and install them, you do not need to reinstall gnome-pilot.

Regards,
Tom
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> Thanks for that advice. I'm not ignoring it bust the
last two days 
> were real busy for me and this morning I had reserved
to try out 
> your usb.c patch; however, www.pilot-link.org seems to
be down (bit 
> ironic, isn't it). I will keep at it, though.

pilot-link.org is definitely not down...

# grep pilot-link.org access.log | grep 06/Oct | perl -lne
'print 
/((?:d+.)d+)/' | sort | uniq | wc -l
14469

Hit me privately with the IP you're coming in from, and I'll
see if 
the abuse autodetection rules might have firewalled you off
for some 
reason.
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Hmm, interesting,

ping www.pilot-link.org ==> no answer.

ping pilot-link.org ==> no answer.

ping 72.36.135.42 ==> no answer

http://www.pilot-link.org has been timing out on my browsers both in F7
and Windows for the last two hours.

How do I hit you privately?

Rene

-----Original Message-----
From: gnome-pilot-list-bouncesgnome.org
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David A.
Desrosiers
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:03 AM
To: The PalmOS< tm> integration pacakge
Subject: RE: z22 F7 problem


> Thanks for that advice. I'm not ignoring it bust the
last two days 
> were real busy for me and this morning I had reserved
to try out 
> your usb.c patch; however, www.pilot-link.org seems to
be down (bit 
> ironic, isn't it). I will keep at it, though.

pilot-link.org is definitely not down...

# grep pilot-link.org access.log | grep 06/Oct | perl -lne
'print 
/((?:d+.)d+)/' | sort | uniq | wc -l
14469

Hit me privately with the IP you're coming in from, and I'll
see if 
the abuse autodetection rules might have firewalled you off
for some 
reason.
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