about the pear group and the president

Hi,

I am lazy, so I am just dumping an IRC log here.

[06:23] <Tias_> Here's another idea for the new pear-group:
how about 
creating a monthly newsletter ? new releases, accepted
pepr's, 
pear-group news, review of things discussed on pear.dev,
maybe 
package-of-the-month, etc ?
[06:27] <dsp_> nice idea
[06:28] <dsp_> but first of all, things from
"constituation" should be done
[06:43] <lsmith> Tias_: also pear group is not a full
time job
[06:43] <lsmith> that would be a lot of work, unless
the bulk of it 
could be automated
[06:43] <lsmith> in which case you dont really need
the pear group to do 
this ..
[06:44] <lsmith> pear group is really about having a
smaller group of 
people with certain decision and karma rights
[06:44] <lsmith> not about them doing more work
[06:45] <lsmith> although many of the people that got
voted in, where 
voted in because they are very active members of the
community
[06:45] <lsmith> but if greg commits something on the
pear installer, he 
doesnt do it because he is the president of pear
[06:45] <lsmith> but because he is a developer of
pear

I think its important that we realize this distinction.
Having the PEAR 
Group does not mean that we should turn to them when we need
something 
done. Its just as always, do stuff yourself if you want them
done!

regards,
Lukas

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Hi,

On 5/2/07, Lukas Kahwe Smith <mlspooteeweet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am lazy, so I am just dumping an IRC log here.
>
> [06:23] <Tias_> Here's another idea for the new
pear-group: how about
> creating a monthly newsletter ? new releases, accepted
pepr's,
> pear-group news, review of things discussed on
pear.dev, maybe
> package-of-the-month, etc ?
> [06:27] <dsp_> nice idea
> [06:28] <dsp_> but first of all, things from
"constituation" should be
> done
> [06:43] <lsmith> Tias_: also pear group is not a
full time job
> [06:43] <lsmith> that would be a lot of work,
unless the bulk of it
> could be automated
> [06:43] <lsmith> in which case you dont really
need the pear group to do
> this ..
> [06:44] <lsmith> pear group is really about
having a smaller group of
> people with certain decision and karma rights
> [06:44] <lsmith> not about them doing more work
> [06:45] <lsmith> although many of the people that
got voted in, where
> voted in because they are very active members of the
community
> [06:45] <lsmith> but if greg commits something on
the pear installer, he
> doesnt do it because he is the president of pear
> [06:45] <lsmith> but because he is a developer of
pear
>
> I think its important that we realize this distinction.
Having the PEAR
> Group does not mean that we should turn to them when we
need something
> done. Its just as always, do stuff yourself if you want
them done!


Yeah I agree, we'd rather want a dedicated set of people
doing this, kinda
in the direction of www.fedoranews.org or similar 
I'd probably contribute sometime but not because I'm in
pear-group, as Lukas
already stated.

Perhaps we should blow up the discussion again and see if it
leads anywhere
?
This is also a very good job for people that want to be
involved in PEAR but
can't code wise or like something new for a change.

Regards
Helgi

On 5/8/07, Helgi Žormar <helgithgmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah I agree, we'd rather want a dedicated set of
people doing this, kinda
> in the direction of www.fedoranews.org or similar 

Maybe "Planet PEAR"?

Cheers,
Till

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On 5/8/07, till <klimponggmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/8/07, Helgi Žormar <helgithgmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah I agree, we'd rather want a dedicated set of
people doing this,
> kinda
> > in the direction of www.fedoranews.org or similar

>
> Maybe "Planet PEAR"?


Nahh that suggest something in the direction of a feed
planet, i.e.
planet-php

The idea would be more that it would be done by many
contributers (freely
editable ?)  and perhaps have some "head" persons
to make sure the content
is okey and looks  decent (f.ex. style wise) and make it
weekly, bi-weekly
or monthly, kinda even in the format like fedoranews has
(the layout is new
but it seems to work well)

Regards
Helgi