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Re: More stream power
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2007-11-07 03:03:17
For those with the interest and the bandwidth, here is 611
at full chuff.
http
://www.rail-videos.net/video/view.php?id=927
> 
> From: Adam Maas <mykroftmykroft.com>
> Date: 2007/11/07 Wed AM 06:13:23 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdmlpdml.net>
> Subject: Re: More stream power
> 
> N&W was one of the last of the great US roads to
dieselize, although UP 
> would run steam longer after dieselization (UP tried
just about 
> everything possible as motive power in the 1950's, but
was primarily 
> diesel early on).
> 
> The J's weren't freight locomotive's, they were fast
passenger 
> locomotives (The large drivers are typical for
passenger units, most 
> freight locomotives had smaller-drivers which were
slower, but offered 
> more traction). N&W's great freight locomotives
were the Y Class 
> Mallets, which were 2-8-8-2's  with 16 drive wheels(the
J's were 
> 4-8-4's). There were 14 J's, but only 8 of them were
streamlined (the 5 
> prewar J's and the 3 built in 1950, the other 6 built
during WW2 lacked 
> streamlining as an austerity measure).
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 
> Bob Sullivan wrote:
> > Interesting.  That makes the N&W Mechanical
Department the
> > manufacturer.  'See, we don't need any of those
stinking diesel
> > locomotives!  We can be just as pretty with
steam.'
> > 
> > More seriously, I think the coal service of the
N&W operated steam for
> > longer than most railroads.  Moving the heavy coal
drags was a chore
> > that suited the steam power's performance
characteristics.  With the 4
> > main drive axels on that locomotive, she had to be
in freight service.
> > 
> > Regards,  Bob S/
> > 
> > On 11/6/07, Bill Owens <wowens1carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> >> Hey Bob,
> >>
> >> In this case, the manufacturer was the
railroad.  The N&W built a lot of
> >> their own engines and all of their coal
hoppers, all in the Roanoke shops.
> >> At one time they had 4 of these J series
engines, but only 611 is left
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: pdml-bouncespdml.net
[mailto:pdml-bouncespdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> >> Sullivan
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:52 PM
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: More stream power
> >>
> >> Prettied up with a streamlined exterior.  In
the '50's, the locomotive
> >> manufacturers were trying to hold onto their
customer base.  Not as
> >> much muscle visible here.
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>
> >> On 11/6/07, Bill Owens <wowens1carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> >>> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=2008
51&nseq=10
> >>>
> >>> Not my photo, but a classic steam
locomotive built at the Norfolk and
> >>> Western shops in Roanoke, VA.  It was
built in 1950 and was arguably the
> >>> most efficient steam engine ever built.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: More stream power
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2007-11-07 07:19:19
Mike,
Marvelous!
You have to wait for it,
and then the experience is sensory overload!
Regards, Bob S.

On 11/7/07, mike wilson <m.9.wilsonntlworld.com> wrote:
> For those with the interest and the bandwidth, here is
611 at full chuff.
> http
://www.rail-videos.net/video/view.php?id=927
> >
> > From: Adam Maas <mykroftmykroft.com>
> > Date: 2007/11/07 Wed AM 06:13:23 GMT
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdmlpdml.net>
> > Subject: Re: More stream power
> >
> > N&W was one of the last of the great US roads
to dieselize, although UP
> > would run steam longer after dieselization (UP
tried just about
> > everything possible as motive power in the 1950's,
but was primarily
> > diesel early on).
> >
> > The J's weren't freight locomotive's, they were
fast passenger
> > locomotives (The large drivers are typical for
passenger units, most
> > freight locomotives had smaller-drivers which were
slower, but offered
> > more traction). N&W's great freight
locomotives were the Y Class
> > Mallets, which were 2-8-8-2's  with 16 drive
wheels(the J's were
> > 4-8-4's). There were 14 J's, but only 8 of them
were streamlined (the 5
> > prewar J's and the 3 built in 1950, the other 6
built during WW2 lacked
> > streamlining as an austerity measure).
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> >
> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
> > > Interesting.  That makes the N&W
Mechanical Department the
> > > manufacturer.  'See, we don't need any of
those stinking diesel
> > > locomotives!  We can be just as pretty with
steam.'
> > >
> > > More seriously, I think the coal service of
the N&W operated steam for
> > > longer than most railroads.  Moving the heavy
coal drags was a chore
> > > that suited the steam power's performance
characteristics.  With the 4
> > > main drive axels on that locomotive, she had
to be in freight service.
> > >
> > > Regards,  Bob S/
> > >
> > > On 11/6/07, Bill Owens <wowens1carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> Hey Bob,
> > >>
> > >> In this case, the manufacturer was the
railroad.  The N&W built a lot of
> > >> their own engines and all of their coal
hoppers, all in the Roanoke shops.
> > >> At one time they had 4 of these J series
engines, but only 611 is left
> > >>
> > >> Bill
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: pdml-bouncespdml.net
[mailto:pdml-bouncespdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> > >> Sullivan
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:52 PM
> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > >> Subject: Re: More stream power
> > >>
> > >> Prettied up with a streamlined exterior. 
In the '50's, the locomotive
> > >> manufacturers were trying to hold onto
their customer base.  Not as
> > >> much muscle visible here.
> > >> Regards,  Bob S.
> > >>
> > >> On 11/6/07, Bill Owens <wowens1carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> > >>> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=2008
51&nseq=10
> > >>>
> > >>> Not my photo, but a classic steam
locomotive built at the Norfolk and
> > >>> Western shops in Roanoke, VA.  It was
built in 1950 and was arguably the
> > >>> most efficient steam engine ever
built.
> > >>>
> > >>> Bill
> > >>>
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