Anyone still monitor?

Steve Howard (PFE) wrote:
>
> I haven’t seen a single question here in almost 3
months now, so I’m 
> wondering if anyone still monitors, or if anyone still
uses Perl for 
> Win32 databases. I know I use it less and less, and I’m
wondering if 
> I’m holding on to a technology that has gone the way of
the dodo.
>
> Is anyone still listening out there? Bill? Tim?
Others?
>
> Steve Howard
>
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Yes, we use Perl to access SQL server databases extensively.
Perhaps the 
reason there are no questions is we are not having many
problems.

Mark.

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I'm frequently connecting to dbs on Win32 platforms. No
major issues 
(except for blobs, which I try to avoid) to report. DBI is
very stable. 
What else is there to ask on the mailing list?

Perl on Win32 imho is still very relavant to administrators,
developers, 
and just about anyone who wants to muck around with Windows
stuff, and 
has the intention to eventually migrate to an OS-independent
platform. 
PHPers do it. Javaers do it.

Of course if you plan to stick with the big M, .Net might be
more appealing.


Steve Howard (PFE) wrote:
>
> I haven’t seen a single question here in almost 3
months now, so I’m 
> wondering if anyone still monitors, or if anyone still
uses Perl for 
> Win32 databases. I know I use it less and less, and I’m
wondering if 
> I’m holding on to a technology that has gone the way of
the dodo.
>
> Is anyone still listening out there? Bill? Tim?
Others?
>
> Steve Howard
>
>
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Thank you.

Let me clarify so people understand why I am asking. I
really had hoped to get nearly flamed when I asked the
question ... but I haven't quite gotten that. I'm not trying
to discourage anybody who uses Perl, but I needed to know
how much still exists.

I began using Perl in the late 1990's, and began
participating in the DBI users group, then, maybe about
2000, I began participating on this group. That was two jobs
ago. I used Perl extensively at that time. The job I took at
that time was as a development DBA. I also began developing
using Java, and stopped using Perl for CGI, but still used
it extensively as an administrative tool for SQL Server, and
for a language for doing conversions between things like
Oracle, PostgreSQL, MySQL and SQL Server. I also developed
some administrative tools, and some user apps for Windows
and Unix/Linux using Perl ... some of them were really
slick. Most of the ones where I originally developed the
user portion in Perl, I later re-wrote the user portion in
either Java/Swing or in C++. But on that job, I ALWAYS used
Perl as my main administrative scripting language.

At the time I began on these lists, they were very active. I
learned, and I continued after learning in order to give
back to the community ... I benefitted a great deal from
what I learned on these communities, so I contributed to try
to keep it going.

Now, I work for the big 'M.' I support SQL Server as a field
engineer. It is much different from what I understood before
coming here, and believe it or not, our managers often
encourage us to continue participating in groups like this.
It benefits other users of our products, and keeps us
informed of what is happening in the real world. When we
participate actively in active groups, we can sometimes
point to this as an additional point for our reviews.
Honestly, all of these things, and the fact that I LOVE
working support kept me interested in this group. I loved
being able to contribute to it.

However; now, I find that there is virtually no activity to
speak of on the group - it has dwindled to virtually
nothing. The people I used to see actively participating and
answering questions on this list seem to have disappeared.

I said that I'm a field engineer, and there have been a
couple of times where I have been able to help customers
with problems on a system that was ever touched by Perl ...
but only a couple of times over a period of time that I
won't mention. I have helped several with Java J2EE apps
interfacing with SQL Server, and quite a few with other
issues. These happen incidentally - I focus on SQL, but need
to have these skills when the SQL problem turns out to be
somewhere else in the application.

I began noticing that the volume of activity on this list
has dwindled to almost nothing. That, and what I see in the
field seemed to tell me that either people couldn't find the
list (Very possible - it's not as accessible as it once
was), or else there just aren't many people learning Perl
with SQL or other MS database platforms anymore. With the
volume of SQL in the world (and the growth of SQL in the
market), that made me think that this might be a
disappearing niche. The fact that I haven't been flamed for
suggesting it hasn't restored my confidence that it isn't
... I wish it wasn't, though.

If it is a disappearing niche, then things ranging from
material we have in our SQL Performance Tuning and
Optimization workshop to how I want to spend my extra time,
and whether or not I need another hobby outside of work are
affected. That's why I'm asking the question.

So if I re-phrase my question: I'm not trying to discourage
ANYONE from using Perl with MS Databases, but are people
learning this anymore? It seems to me that the ones who have
used it in the past will continue to use it some, but maybe
less and less. And it seems that very few people are
learning it anew. Is this what you see?

Steve Howard

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Subject: Re: Anyone still monitor?

I'm frequently connecting to dbs on Win32 platforms. No
major issues
(except for blobs, which I try to avoid) to report. DBI is
very stable.
What else is there to ask on the mailing list?

Perl on Win32 imho is still very relavant to administrators,
developers,
and just about anyone who wants to muck around with Windows
stuff, and
has the intention to eventually migrate to an OS-independent
platform.
PHPers do it. Javaers do it.

Of course if you plan to stick with the big M, .Net might be
more appealing.


Steve Howard (PFE) wrote:
>
> I haven't seen a single question here in almost 3
months now, so I'm
> wondering if anyone still monitors, or if anyone still
uses Perl for
> Win32 databases. I know I use it less and less, and I'm
wondering if
> I'm holding on to a technology that has gone the way of
the dodo.
>
> Is anyone still listening out there? Bill? Tim?
Others?
>
> Steve Howard
>
>
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Hi all,

Of course I keep using Perl with MySQL/MSSQL. As Mark said
probably the lack of troubles makes that this is not so
popular anymore.


Guillermo López
 



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En nombre de Mark F. Nettleingham
Enviado el: martes, 31 de julio de 2007 22:44
Para: Steve Howard (PFE)
CC: perl-win32-databaseactivestate.com
Asunto: Re: Anyone still monitor?

Steve Howard (PFE) wrote:
>
> I haven't seen a single question here in almost 3
months now, so I'm 
> wondering if anyone still monitors, or if anyone still
uses Perl for
> Win32 databases. I know I use it less and less, and I'm
wondering if 
> I'm holding on to a technology that has gone the way of
the dodo.
>
> Is anyone still listening out there? Bill? Tim?
Others?
>
> Steve Howard
>
>
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Yes, we use Perl to access SQL server databases extensively.
Perhaps the reason there are no questions is we are not
having many problems.

Mark.

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