Blogspot posts update issue

 Hello,

 I'm using Planet Venus for the planet located at
http://planet.fsa-bg.org

 It works fine, but there is one very annoying problem -
when a post in
a blogspot/blogger weblog is being updated, the planet
"pushes" it to
the top of the list. It looks like Venus is taking the
<updated> tag in
the atom feed for a <published> tag.

 There is no need to push the updated posts to the top. It's
a normal
thing one to go back and fix a typo in one's blog post. And
Venus is
not messing the dates of any other blogs I have used. Just
the
blogger/blogspot.

 I have searched through the code, but with no success.
 Please advise. Thanks,
 Yasen

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Yasen Pramatarov wrote:
>  Hello,
> 
>  I'm using Planet Venus for the planet located at
> http://planet.fsa-bg.org

>  It works fine, but there is one very annoying problem
- when a post in
> a blogspot/blogger weblog is being updated, the planet
"pushes" it to
> the top of the list. It looks like Venus is taking the
<updated> tag in
> the atom feed for a <published> tag.
> 
>  There is no need to push the updated posts to the top.
It's a normal
> thing one to go back and fix a typo in one's blog post.
And Venus is
> not messing the dates of any other blogs I have used.
Just the
> blogger/blogspot.

The definition of atom:updated indicates that the blog post
was updated 
in a way that the publisher considers significant, and
further goes on 
to state that not all modifications necessarily result in a
changed 
atom:updated value. [1]

That being said, it may be the case that you want to
instruct Venus to 
ignore 'updated' values in a specific feed, or in all feeds.
 Simply add 
the following to either the section for the specific feed,
or to the 
[planet] section if you want it to apply to all feeds:

   ignore_in_feed: updated

For more information, see the overrides information in the
Venus 
documentation[2].

- Sam Ruby

[1] 
http://www.atomenabled.org
/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php#element.updated

[2] http://www.intertwingly.net/code/venus/docs/normal
ization.html
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<quote who="Sam Ruby">

> The definition of atom:updated indicates that the blog
post was updated 
> in a way that the publisher considers significant, and
further goes on 
> to state that not all modifications necessarily result
in a changed 
> atom:updated value. [1]
> 
> That being said, it may be the case that you want to
instruct Venus to 
> ignore 'updated' values in a specific feed, or in all
feeds.  Simply add 
> the following to either the section for the specific
feed, or to the 
> [planet] section if you want it to apply to all feeds:
> 
>   ignore_in_feed: updated

Won't that ignore it entirely? The behaviour Planet users
are accustomed to
(before Atom was widely deployed) is that when an upstream
entry is updated,
it is changed in the Planet feed but *not* bumped to the top
(in most cases
anyway; difficult to rely on RSS's implied behaviour at the
best of times).

This tends to be an important issue when dealing with
community Planets, so
perhaps - as much as I dislike adding or even proposing yet
more settings -
it should be a more explicit choice? I can understand that
when using Planet
as a personal feed reader, bumping updated entries to the
top is desireable.

- Jeff

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